Beyerdynamic DT 1990 PRO // DT 1990 PRO MK II -- Impressions Thread

[Nkam]

DT1990 Pro, analytic Pads, Audirvana Studio, M1 Mac, Mac OS EQ



Sennheiser HD 490 Pro plus, Mixing Pads don't need EQ!

Yeah but I’m sure the HD490 don’t have the dynamics of Beyers.
Senheiser makes a great headphone, but it’s different.
I always equated Sens to more vocal focused music.
Not for classical or Rock at all. Which need crazy dynamics and attack and decay. Punch etc,

 

[Chastity]

DT1990 Pro, analytic Pads, Audirvana Studio, M1 Mac, Mac OS EQ



Sennheiser HD 490 Pro plus, Mixing Pads don't need EQ!

Just get the newer driver dust pads, it will attenuate the 8KHz peak nicely, and you won't need EQ. They are the ones with the stitched ring around the center, and used in their newer models.

 

[Nkam]

Just get the newer driver dust pads, it will attenuate the 8KHz peak nicely, and you won't need EQ. They are the ones with the stitched ring around the center, and used in their newer models.

Are those dust pads made for the 1990 specifically or from other models?
Thanks

 

[Pan Varox]

Are those dust pads made for the 1990 specifically or from other models?
Thanks

From other models, but personally I wouldn’t suggest them - they lower not only the 8kHz peak but also rest of the treble, which makes DT1990 kind of „muted” sounding in comparison

 

[FritzS]

Yeah but I’m sure the HD490 don’t have the dynamics of Beyers.
Senheiser makes a great headphone, but it’s different.
I always equated Sens to more vocal focused music.
Not for classical or Rock at all. Which need crazy dynamics and attack and decay. Punch etc,

I compered them, you are slightly mistaken, HD490 Pro (plus) is different from the HD6xx series. Friends who have both confirmed this.

HD490 Pro is meant for Pro and is more comparable to Neumann NDH 30.

As far as I can see, Sennheiser Consumer (Sonova Consumer Hearing GmbH) and Sennheiser Pro (Sennheiser electronic SE & Co. KG | Germany) are different companies.

Maybe I'll take a look and compare the HD490 Pro (mixing) with the DT1990 (analytic) - frequency response standardised using SoundID.

PS: Unfortunately, Austrian.Audio Composer is not yet available in SoundID.

 

[Nkam]

I compered them, you are slightly mistaken, HD490 Pro (plus) is different from the HD6xx series. Friends who have both confirmed this.

HD490 Pro is meant for Pro and is more comparable to Neumann NDH 30.

As far as I can see, Sennheiser Consumer (Sonova Consumer Hearing GmbH) and Sennheiser Pro (Sennheiser electronic SE & Co. KG | Germany) are different companies.

Maybe I'll take a look and compare the HD490 Pro (mixing) with the DT1990 (analytic) - frequency response standardised using SoundID.

PS: Unfortunately, Austrian.Audio Composer is not yet available in SoundID.

Thanks , fair enough. I have no problem at all saying I wrong.
I see you have both as well so you know more than I do of course.
Do you EQ your 1990?

 

[FritzS]

Thanks , fair enough. I have no problem at all saying I wrong.
I see you have both as well so you know more than I do of course.
Do you EQ your 1990?

Please look here, only this, but if with some pieces of music only when the highs appear sharp. These are sound filters provided by Apple on the Mac.
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/bey...ering-headphone.814629/page-322#post-18271906
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/bey...ering-headphone.814629/page-322#post-18386193

I have an Sonarworks SoundID for headphones license, but use this rarely. Only to compare. https://www.sonarworks.com/

 

[Nkam]

I compered them, you are slightly mistaken, HD490 Pro (plus) is different from the HD6xx series. Friends who have both confirmed this.

HD490 Pro is meant for Pro and is more comparable to Neumann NDH 30.

As far as I can see, Sennheiser Consumer (Sonova Consumer Hearing GmbH) and Sennheiser Pro (Sennheiser electronic SE & Co. KG | Germany) are different companies.

Maybe I'll take a look and compare the HD490 Pro (mixing) with the DT1990 (analytic) - frequency response standardised using SoundID.

PS: Unfortunately, Austrian.Audio Composer is not yet available in SoundID.

So the punch and attack is comparable of the Beyer and the 490 pro? Can you mention any other differences of the two?
How is the timbre on the 490 compared to the Beyer 1990?

Cheers

 

[audiobomber]

Then it's time for you to stop looking at dynamics and planars, and start looking at estats or ribbon solutions, like AMT. You sound like you are stuck where I was, and explored into the DT-1990 and the Monolith M1070 / M1570 planars. The Monolith AMT are finally giving me that experience I was looking for, and solid accurate FR across the full spectrum. (caveat: these have a flat response from 1K-6KHz so you need to correct it to your desired curve, else it sounds low-mid centric)

Could be. I do like AMT tweeters a lot, however I am not interested in a headphone if I need to EQ. If it sounds right to me, and better than the DT 1990, I could be interested. If it sounds wrong to me for whatever reason, I'll pass. I have no need to EQ the 1990/Analytic. I have the Grado GH4 headphones which have a brighter, punchier sound, but I rarely use them. I have listened to the Stax SR-9000 and 7000, but found them boring due to poor PRaT.

 

[Waldimer]

Please look here, only this, but if with some pieces of music only when the highs appear sharp. These are sound filters provided by Apple on the Mac.
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/bey...ering-headphone.814629/page-322#post-18271906
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/bey...ering-headphone.814629/page-322#post-18386193

I have an Sonarworks SoundID for headphones license, but use this rarely. Only to compare. https://www.sonarworks.com/

Hi FritzS! I’m currently in the process of choosing headphones for home use, and I noticed that in the threads for all the models I’m interested in, you’ve left some insightful comments. The models are: 1. Beyerdynamic DT 1990 2. Sony MDR MV-1 3. Ollo S5X 4. Sennheiser HD 660S2.

Beyerdynamic is often described as a 'magnifying glass' for listening to music, where you can clearly pinpoint the location of each instrument. Sennheiser, on the other hand, is recommended for those who just want to enjoy the music. Ollo is also suggested for analytical listening, while Sony is praised for its soundstage and accuracy.

After comparing these headphones in this video [ https://youtube.com/@quality-audio?si=_k0eAvy1382CcjnR ], I found that I preferred the Beyerdynamic—they give you the feeling of playing the instrument yourself and allow for precise localization of the instruments. The Sennheiser, by contrast, felt like you were sitting in the front row, and the Sony sounded similar to the Beyerdynamic but with a slightly more diffused soundstage.

However, I know that relying solely on YouTube for analysis has its limitations. Could you help me make a decision?

 

[FritzS]

In short:

DT1990 Pro (analytic) sitting within the musicians
HD490 Pro (mixing) sitting in the best position in front of the musicians

Austrian.Audio Composer a mixture of both worlds and a class (sound and building) above.

PS: I have also had the opportunity to listen to Sennheiser's flagship HE-1 (‘Marble Stone’) several times. I also know the STAX headphones, heard them all. In terms of price, all these systems (you have to look at them as a whole!) are far above it.

 

[Waldimer]

In short:

DT1990 Pro (analytic) sitting within the musicians
HD490 Pro (mixing) sitting in the best position in front of the musicians

Austrian.Audio Composer a mixture of both worlds and a class (sound and building) above.

PS: I have also had the opportunity to listen to Sennheiser's flagship HE-1 (‘Marble Stone’) several times. I also know the STAX headphones, heard them all. In terms of price, all these systems (you have to look at them as a whole!) are far above it.

Vielen Dank für die Antwort! Jetzt ist mir klar, dass ich mich auf das verlassen kann, was ich auf YouTube höre. Das hat mir wirklich weitergeholfen.

 

[Bret Halford]

Bye.

 

[kman1211]

Mk 2 release pending



Leaked out in some of the euro stores already...



I assume "Tesla 45" is a new variant or generation of the Stellar 45... maybe just a translation thing. It'll be $600 USD stateside and seems like end of month release on paper at least.

Interesting, I am curious how the sound differs from the original DT 1990 and how the driver differs. Regardless would love to get my hands on them sometime.

 

[baneand]

Mk 2 release pending



Leaked out in some of the euro stores already...



I assume "Tesla 45" is a new variant or generation of the Stellar 45... maybe just a translation thing. It'll be $600 USD stateside and seems like end of month release on paper at least.

The original was my entry into "hifi" headphone after listening to only bluetooth hps. I still miss selling it, can be easily one and done, but this is really nice news, hopefully it will keep the build quality and openness of the original. I assume the will try to address the 8khz peak most people were crying about.