Dang, those are big. Can't quite tell from the description, but what's the difference between the orange and the black versions?
I do have a set of large Xelastecs and they *almost* fit. They're better than the other large sizes I've tried, but my left ear hole is apparently an even bigger monster than my right, so the left side eventually ends up breaking its seal. My other issue with the Xelastec tips is that they sound light on bass to me. Since I'm already using a bass-light set of IEMs (Orchestra Lite), the Xelastecs sound a bit thin and dull compared to the other tips I've tried.
I'll give those Penon tips a shot. Might need to mix and match one of their XL with an L to get the fit just right.
Sorry I missed this reply before.
The Orchestra Lite look like the sort of shape that should give pretty decent depth of insertion, I have been looking at getting a set myself and they are similar shape to others that work great for me.
SORRY, DUMB QUSTION BUT IT HAS TO BE ASKED - are you sure you are pushing them right into your ear canal as far as they will go not just lightly popping them into the outer part. I jam all IEM in until they literally bottom out on the outer part of my ear so the nozzle is in as far as it is possible for it to go.
I would think if you struggle with fit with the Orchestra Lite other shallower fitting sets might be near impossible, except perhaps with the big boy XL Liqueurs !
I would suggest spending some time understanding your fit requirements with the Orchestra Lite first and really figuring out what works and what doesn't before buying another set that might be shallower fitting and likely to give worse fit issues.
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