Kallbo
500+ Head-Fier
Hi!
Still nothing about release date and price?
Still nothing about release date and price?
I believe it’s actually the opposite… planar drivers don’t have as much excursion, so they have to be relatively larger than dynamic driver types in order to create equivalent air displacement. If you had a dynamic and planar driver of equal size and same enclosure, it’s the planar that would sound thin and airy. Weight is also a significant factor. But the enclosure has it’s own effect!
As long as you are aware that there is a fabric cover in front of the dynamic driver in that picture! But yes, the grell headphone does have a dynamic driver. It’s made of a biocellulose material, similar to what has been seen in Sony and Fostex headphones in the past.
Planar magnetic drivers typically have a better bass response with more extension to the low-end frequencies. This means they have less roll-off than high-end open, dynamic headphones of the same caliber.
Typical planar magnetic drivers have slightly better soundstage.
Generally this is imparted by the stiffness and rigidity at the diaphragm's center - especially for treble frequencies - remember that dynamic driver diaphragms are not uniform the way planar magnetic diaphragms are.
So in summary, headphones with planar magnetic transducers often sound tighter, more controlled, and have better extension capabilities with less distortion for bass than dynamic drivers.
Haven't been around much lately but dropping in to see where the OAE1 is currently at I find this comment sobering, thank you!I’m really interested in the new Grells but it seems to me they are going to be more than $300, so we’ll see …
I do hope the build quality is excellent.
Haven't been around much lately but dropping in to see where the OAE1 is currently at I find this comment sobering, thank you!
Was having the piano tune the other day, it's an upright Yamaha hand assembled in Japan and looking at used prices, which hover around $3k-$5k, I now find it impossible to accept today's escalating prices on headphones considering the amount of work that goes into most musical instruments... Does not compute. lol
Haven't been around much lately but dropping in to see where the OAE1 is currently at I find this comment sobering, thank you!
Was having the piano tune the other day, it's an upright Yamaha hand assembled in Japan and looking at used prices, which hover around $3k-$5k, I now find it impossible to accept today's escalating prices on headphones considering the amount of work that goes into most musical instruments... Does not compute. lol
I was thinking more in terms of sheer physicality and labour involved.Yeah it's not a good comparison.
Yep...pianos in terms of popularity, where they were once the cherished center of home entertainment a century a ago (replaced by the record player) are now a thing of the past, a curiosity, at the end of life and of little monetary value if any. We all still love piano music and will go to great lengths to find the headphone that will properly reproduce the recording of such, how times change. lolYou have a hard time giving them away in some places\
As of this very moment, it appears that we’ll find out later rather than sooner how the OAE-1 fairs. Not that I’m impatientI was thinking more in terms of sheer physicality and labour involved.
Yep...pianos in terms of popularity, where they were once the cherished center of home entertainment a century a ago (replaced by the record player) are now a thing of the past, a curiosity, at the end of life and of little monetary value if any. We all still love piano music and will go to great lengths to find the headphone that will properly reproduce the recording of such, how times change. lol
Hopefully we'll find out sooner than later how the OAE-1 fairs.
Not a question of temperament, time waits for no one and mine will run out sooner than later. lolAs of this very moment, it appears that we’ll find out later rather than sooner how the OAE-1 fairs. Not that I’m impatient
As of this very moment, it appears that we’ll find out later rather than sooner how the OAE-1 fairs. Not that I’m impatient
I was thinking more in terms of sheer physicality and labour involved.
Yep...pianos in terms of popularity, where they were once the cherished center of home entertainment a century a ago (replaced by the record player) are now a thing of the past, a curiosity, at the end of life and of little monetary value if any. We all still love piano music and will go to great lengths to find the headphone that will properly reproduce the recording of such, how times change. lol
Hopefully we'll find out sooner than later how the OAE-1 fairs.
Yeah, there's a lot that goes into building pianos. I once remove the soundboard from a 100k+ Steinway concert grand. I thought the process would be intricate, but it was done with a mallet and a 2x4. There was significantly more care involved when installing the replacement.
I can imagine the Douglas Adams quote in your footer might apply to such a process, haha
Seriously though...one should be a bit more mature about the whole thing.
There are fundamental differences between what is involved in making a piano and a high-end headphone. The piano industry has been around for countless decades, and the manufacturers have established methods and systems for creating their products. There is more sheer labor and established skill involved.I was thinking more in terms of sheer physicality and labour involved.
Of that I'm totally aware....as the apocryphal story goes. : )With the latest headphones, unless you are going to use OEM parts, you're designing the acoustics completely from scratch, then purchasing very expensive equipment for manufacture, for which you have to set up processes and train people, after years of R&D, during which you aren't making any money from the product.
“...... Picasso, and taking a charcoal from his pocket made a rapid sketch of a goat. It took only a few strokes, yet was unmistakably a Picasso.
The man reached out for the napkin, but Picasso did not hand it over. “You owe me $100,000,” he said.
The tourist was outraged. $100,000? Why, that took you no more than 30 seconds to draw!”
Picasso crumpled up the napkin and stuffed it in his jacket pocket. “You are wrong,” he said, dismissing the man. “It took me 40 years.”
Does not compute. lol