I know you love the M50 and that is OK, but remember, this is just my opinion. You seem to think your comments on the M50 are facts. The DJ 100 has some of the best mids i've heard.
Not true. You just read it that way. I am also not the only one that heard the DJ's the same way if you recall, there were a few others as well. I have every right to say when I hear something different from someone else. Wouldn't you agree?
I've mentioned this several times, but YOU NEED A GOOD AMP to get good sound from the DJ 100. Sorry if you don't like this. This way you're hearing them exactly how they're supposed to sound. Maybe try another source too. I don't care if you don't like them, but at least be fair about it before bashing it.
I've often said synergy is important. My sources and amp are fine as far as driving phones. If you think anyone is going to replace their amps and sources to 'drive' those uber $65-$80 DJ100s you've lost it.
You didn't even give them a fair chance at all.
Oh really? That's why I listened to them for week, even working on pads swaps? Until the person who had the same amp as you told me not to waste my time. I remember posting all these positive aspects about the DJ100's and from your reading you basically labeled me a hater. OK, whatever.
It's like someone on Amazon reviewing a 300 ohm headphone without an amp and giving it a 1/4 because it didn't sound good from their $20 Coby mp3 player. I refuse to review or comment on a headphone without amping them when required and you should do the same.
Everything I listen to IS amped, so stop continuously making stuff up about what I say and write. Am I using a Coby player? Uh huh.
It's getting pretty old how you keep bringing up the fact that I like my DJ 100 and you don't. Does it really bother you that much? You don't like them, so move on already or use a good amp with them and report back.
No, what does bothers me was spending the whole night comparing notes w/ you about discrepancies when you were listening to your DJ100s and M50s w/ EQ and iTunes Bassboost on!! That bothers me. When we compare notes to inform people about phones we listen FLAT, or should. Saying the DJ100 has this awesome bass impact and attacking other people's gear when you are using iTunes Bassboost! Come on man.
I would love to say it's my opinion, but I think it's a fact the mids on them are VERY forward. Nowhere near being recessed or distant.With my Triple Fi the sound is similar, despite what you may have heard.
So now your opinion is a fact but my opinion isn't. Okay, lets run w/ that. So hear lies one issue. When people say forward or recessed, the reference is toward frequency response not imaging and soundstage. By discussing row seating you are referring to Imaging. Like vocals being more intimate and up-front. So there is a semantics issue there.
It's OK you don't agree that vocals on the M50 can be thin. That's not as awful as it sounds. The vocals on the AKG 701 sound a bit that way too for me. It's pretty well known and a lot of people agree that the M50's vocals can be thin and slightly recessed at times. It's not the end of the world and that doesn't mean they're bad.
Once again semantics. Maybe what you guys are calling thin I would refer to as detail. Fullness and thinness relates to sonority and the body of a note, not its detail retrieval. Maybe you need a better source and amp. Right?
The Triple Fi 10 does sound a bit like the M50 in many ways. It doesn't have as much bass, but seems a bit more accurate and not as boomy. I use the Comply foam, so this could change it's sound signature a lot. With my Comply foam I find it fairly neutral. It has nowhere near a "V" signature. I know you probably want to avoid a headphone I might like, but I still think you should try them. For me, they fix a lot of the issues I had with the M50. The Comply foam maybe tames the highs a bit, but I almost felt like they were sort of rolled off like on the M50 and Hd-600. Could just have been due to the foam. I know what recessed mids sound like and I never experienced them with the Triple Fi 10 at all. I guess I got a good pair and i'm lucky. Even if they had recessed mids slightly I just know that if they did they're still OK with me. Just haven't experienced this yet.
So you think TF10s aren't recessed, although your definition is obviously different, but many do. I think the problem is you and I are speaking different languages and using different methodologies. It's obvious it probably makes little sense for us to compare notes so we should probably just leave it be. We aren't the first two on Head-fi to not hear things the same way.
BTW I asked you this before, but do you like the SR-80? Modded it's pretty amazing and has a lot of bass. No, I really mean that. SR-80 mids sound like those of the DJ 100, so if you like the SR-80 i'd be confused how you hate the mids on the DJ 100 so much. Like I said before, if you're mids on the DJ 100 didn't sound like those on the SR-80, something was seriously wrong.
I'm pretty sure I replied I've only heard the SR60, MS1i, 225i, RS1. I was really not a fan of the drivers below the 225i, they sounded a bit grainy and rough around the edges to me. I don't do grain, I don't do thin. Like I said, the DJ100s were the most muffled and artificial mids I've heard in a headphone. Sounded nothing like any Grado mids I have put on my ears. Two others said similar things as did you when you changed your sources if you recall. You have great synergy with your unique setup, you have a good pair and we got bad ones, that's fine. At the end of the day you are free to share your listening of a headphone as am I. People need to hear all sides right?
Have you tried comparing the D2000 to the M50? They may sound similar, but i'm not sure yet.
Not really, I'm planning on skipping most of the mid/mid-upper-fi which basically includes all the Denons. My next two targets are the LCD2 and JH3A or ES5 then call it a day, hopefully....
BTW don't check into the Maxell DHP-II. It sounds like the DJ 100 a lot, so you may not like that also. Interesting you got the 555. They're not bad and are comfortable. That was my first good pair of headphones years ago.
Don't worry, I'm basically done w/ beaters and toys. The 555s freak me out everytime I put them on. I think they are going to snap.
I only got the Senns because I haven't heard a Senn I liked in 15-20 years. These were cheap enough to try out.
I'm going to continue posting my impressions when they diverge from or substantiate someone else's as I expect you will.
