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Aug 11, 2016 at 4:45 PM Post #1,426 of 3,694
Does anyone have the pinout diagram for the AES breakout on the R3? I just got in a pair of these screw down adapters and my 110-75ohm cardas AES to SPDIF adapter. Looking to try out the different output on the R3 over the SPDIF.

EDIT: Here's the amazon link. $14 for a pair https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014FO5UOC
I will run a meter to make sure the pinouts and screwdowns labels match up. Never know with the Chinese stuff specially on cabling/markings.

 
Aug 11, 2016 at 5:09 PM Post #1,428 of 3,694
  Does anyone have the pinout diagram for the AES breakout on the R3? I just got in a pair of these screw down adapters and my 110-75ohm cardas AES to SPDIF adapter. Looking to try out the different output on the R3 over the SPDIF.

 
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Aug 11, 2016 at 5:12 PM Post #1,429 of 3,694
  It's Tascam DB25 so:
 
http://www.sweetwater.com/sweetcare/articles/aesebu-db25-pinout-guide/

^TASCAM pinout

Does this then translate from the db25 to XLR diagram below this way:
Hot to pin 2 "positive" of XLR
Cold to pin 3 "negative" of XLR
Ground to pin 1 "ground" of XLR

 
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Thanks! I was wondering if digital and analog XLR was the same pinout, seems they are. Good stuff on the cable links too, looks like I'll be able to try a cheap cable and a nice DH L Silver cable. I guess I could also make a SPDIF cable as well to go after the Canare adapter with the same stuff. 
   
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Not really that hard to build a DB-25 to AES break-out cable. The only tricky part is trying to solder the right wires to the pins on the DB-25 connector since the pins are so close to each other. I got one of those desktop illuminated magnifier that I use when I do soldering work and it really helps out a lot.
 
Just follow this pin-outs.
 
DB-25 pin-out:                           3 Pin XLR pin-out:
   6 is negative (-)                          3 is negative (-)
 18 is positive  (+)                          2 is positive (+)
 19 is screen                                  1 is screen
 
You can get the DH Labs Silver Sonic wire from: http://www.ebay.com/itm/DH-Labs-Silver-Sonic-D-110-AES-EBU-Cable-Bulk-per-foot-DIY-Digital-cable-/360407119222?hash=item53e9f03576
 
For the 3 pin xlr silver pins connector: http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/NC3MXXBAG
 
For the DB-25 connector: http://www.showmecables.com/product/DB25-Male-Solder-Connector-Kit-Plastic.aspx?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cse&utm_campaign=1164&gclid=Cj0KEQjw_qW9BRCcv-Xc5Jn-26gBEiQAM-iJhUq-OGIAftOX3QNzKVcn49u4-N9Z-_aDh1wbRtiYBycaAkAp8P8HAQ or you could get a metal one from Fry's.

 
Aug 12, 2016 at 1:45 AM Post #1,430 of 3,694
A diyaudio member sells an impressive custom linear power supply and clock upgrades for the Oppo, so that convinced me to return my rn3. As great as the Rednet is, I am a cinephile as well as an audiophile so it's a special opportunity to get my cake and eat it too.
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$350 + $50 shipping for the mod
 
http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f20-buy-and-sell-audio-and-computer-components/oppo-bd-players-improvements-modifications-models-103-103d-105-105d-27695/#post571444
 
$399 + shipping for BDT-101CI (US/Canada/Mexico only)
 
http://www.oppodigital.com/proddetail.asp?prod=SOI-BDT101CI
 
Playback from a Home Network
 
http://download.oppodigital.com/BDT101CI/BDT-101CI%20User%20Manual%20v1.1.pdf#page=31
 
Pretty tempting for roughly 800 bucks if that were able to beat RN3? No warranty already so we could even replace RCA jack with WBT-0210 Ag and IEC inlet with Furutech FI-06 NCF(R) if we want.
 
Aug 12, 2016 at 2:05 AM Post #1,431 of 3,694
   
.... if that were able to beat RN3? ....

 
Who says that is able to beat an AOIP solution?
No USB or DLNA device even comes close to what Rednet AOIP does for sound improvement.
The Oppo is still just a BD-player.
 
Aug 12, 2016 at 4:42 AM Post #1,433 of 3,694
Anyone knows the difference between rednet d16aes and d16r?

 
R = redundancy as in "power supply redundancy for maximum reliability". There are two PSUs as seen here: http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/RedNetD16R. No advantage to domestic audiophiles; in fact, extra PS risks extra noise. Besides - extra expense.
 
P.S. On a related "redundancy" model - the *AR16R* - the DB25s are different - inc Analog outs. Hints at D/A conversion. See http://www.pro-tools-expert.com/home-page/2016/1/19/focusrite-announce-dante-based-rednet-ar16r-interface-with-redundancy for "16 channels of network-connected 24-bit, 192kHz A/D-D/A conversion,  line level analogue audio in and out with full network and power supply redundancy".
 
Aug 12, 2016 at 10:30 AM Post #1,434 of 3,694
  Does anyone have the pinout diagram for the AES breakout on the R3? I just got in a pair of these screw down adapters and my 110-75ohm cardas AES to SPDIF adapter. Looking to try out the different output on the R3 over the SPDIF.

EDIT: Here's the amazon link. $14 for a pair https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014FO5UOC
I will run a meter to make sure the pinouts and screwdowns labels match up. Never know with the Chinese stuff specially on cabling/markings.


Nice!  That'll solve the pin soldering issue for some folks (as for me just less hassle factor).
 
Aug 12, 2016 at 12:37 PM Post #1,435 of 3,694
   
$350 + $50 shipping for the mod
 
http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f20-buy-and-sell-audio-and-computer-components/oppo-bd-players-improvements-modifications-models-103-103d-105-105d-27695/#post571444
 
$399 + shipping for BDT-101CI (US/Canada/Mexico only)
 
http://www.oppodigital.com/proddetail.asp?prod=SOI-BDT101CI
 
Playback from a Home Network
 
http://download.oppodigital.com/BDT101CI/BDT-101CI%20User%20Manual%20v1.1.pdf#page=31
 
Pretty tempting for roughly 800 bucks if that were able to beat RN3? No warranty already so we could even replace RCA jack with WBT-0210 Ag and IEC inlet with Furutech FI-06 NCF(R) if we want.

 
The Oppo and the RedNet are very different animals, meeting different needs and with different upgrade paths. I would not think of them in terms of one beating the other. Although I think it would be great if someone took a shot at replacing the RedNet power supply and looking at the internal clocks as my hunch is there's some performance improvement to be had in that regard. I have rarely come across a smps in an audio component that could not be greatly improved by a good linear supply.
 
Not interested in a squabble over this, it's not necessary. If anyone has questions or comments they can just PM me.
 
Aug 12, 2016 at 1:06 PM Post #1,436 of 3,694
I am selling my like new Mutec due to unexpected emergency. I love this device and will be repurchasing one when things settle. I thought people in this thread would appreciate to hear about it so am writing here.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/817060/mutec-mc-3-smartclock-usb
 
Aug 12, 2016 at 7:20 PM Post #1,437 of 3,694
For anyone interested in the MC-3+ USB for reclocking their Rednet, I found a great deal on ebay for $800 new: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mutec-MC-3-USB-Audio-Re-Clocker-USB-Interface-lowest-Jitter-Master-Clock-/201524320395
 
This is indeed the USB version and is not a price mistake. I just went and picked it up in person and am currently listening to it. Too early to tell the sonic differences but it does sound better. Currently running DB25 AES > Mutec > RCA > PS Audio DirectStream and upgraded the Mutec to the latest 1.10 firmware.
 
Aug 12, 2016 at 11:32 PM Post #1,438 of 3,694
For anyone interested in the MC-3+ USB for reclocking their Rednet, I found a great deal on ebay for $800 new: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mutec-MC-3-USB-Audio-Re-Clocker-USB-Interface-lowest-Jitter-Master-Clock-/201524320395

This is indeed the USB version and is not a price mistake. I just went and picked it up in person and am currently listening to it. Too early to tell the sonic differences but it does sound better. Currently running DB25 AES > Mutec > RCA > PS Audio DirectStream and upgraded the Mutec to the latest 1.10 firmware.


The price for the item you linked is $1099.
 

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