Go even further. Enleum 23R. Now thats downsizing!Interesting device for "downsizing" a set-up. Just add to it a DAC and speakers or HPs.
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A comparison between the two could be very interesting
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Go even further. Enleum 23R. Now thats downsizing!Interesting device for "downsizing" a set-up. Just add to it a DAC and speakers or HPs.
Interesting device for "downsizing" a set-up. Just add to it a DAC and speakers or HPs.
I did actually think of it as I wanted to downsize. If I could compare it with Enleum 23R it would be interesting. Even more interesting when they get the DAC ready for the ENLINK(Like the ACSS) input on the 23R. I just hope they decide on R2RIts still bigger then all non audio gd amps so why would anyone recommend it if you need to save space
HE-9 LE is good, thanks to its fully ACSS/current design for hungry headphones both preamp and headamp. I do enjoy it with Susvara. For me it is endgame headamp for every headphone. Remarkable even with HE400SE. The cheapest DAC sounds amazing on it. Even the 200dollar ones. It just unlocks performances.Doing the calculations, it seems like the HE-9 LE/MK3 are also just barely within the recommended spec for Tungsten's. Given that the HE-9's are regarded as the step up from the M9's, I'm wondering if having that additional power/voltage/current would be more beneficial versus the higher model.
Hoping someone smarter and more experienced can help.
HE-9 LE is good, thanks to its fully ACSS/current design for hungry headphones both preamp and headamp. I do enjoy it with Susvara. For me it is endgame headamp for every headphone. Remarkable even with HE400SE. The cheapest DAC sounds amazing on it. Even the 200dollar ones. It just unlocks performances.
I have not tested the Master19/9mk3. I would only go with the HE-9 LE for the power, even though I do enjoy it with HE400SE on the SE/unbalanced output. On this output the volume is about the same with Susvara on XLR/Unbalanced.
Ah, sorry, when I wrote "M9's" I meant the Master 9P N/S. Was at work and didn't think about the confusing wording. Lol
Yeah, absolutely. Everything I've read leaves me no doubt that the HE-9 LE/MK3 or R-27HE would provide me with I want. And I doubt there's very many people other than Kingwa that have heard those models versus the Master 9P. I'll send him an email.
Advice: Also do NOT put any headphone on speaker taps. It is soo, a stupid idea, and only show the weakness of findings, if there is any, from given experience. I will not tell you why, because I discovered just today why people do such ignorance.Ah, sorry, when I wrote "M9's" I meant the Master 9P N/S. Was at work and didn't think about the confusing wording. Lol
Yeah, absolutely. Everything I've read leaves me no doubt that the HE-9 LE/MK3 or R-27HE would provide me with I want. And I doubt there's very many people other than Kingwa that have heard those models versus the Master 9P. I'll send him an email.
I had the Rag 2 and in my system, to my ears, it performed better as a headphone amp than a speaker amp.To make a tiny comparison, take the Schiit Rag 2 for example. Similar to the Master 9p in that its a headphone amp/preamp/speaker amp. Schiit has said that The Rag 2 is more of a speaker amp first than a headamp, so there is a good chance that the Master 9p is in the same boat. I would put Audio-GD on a higher level than Schiit. My guess is that the Master 9p is equally as good in sound quality as earlier Master 9 models before the recent LE/HE revisions. The Master 9p has quite a bit more power to the headphones than the HE9-LE. Only Kingwa could really tell you which sounds the best, to which he will probably say the HE-mk3. But if you want a AIO for headphones and speakers, the 9p is probably outstanding. Audio-GD does very good updates to their designs over time. I have no doubt that the differences in the 9p are mostly just power delivery and slight tonal shifts.
I had the Rag 2 and in my system, to my ears, it performed better as a headphone amp than a speaker amp.
I really liked it as a headphone amp, actually.
Maybe this is just my confirmation bias kicking in but I prefer my Master 19. It has more character and not as linear.
To make a tiny comparison, take the Schiit Rag 2 for example. Similar to the Master 9p in that its a headphone amp/preamp/speaker amp. Schiit has said that The Rag 2 is more of a speaker amp first than a headamp, so there is a good chance that the Master 9p is in the same boat. I would put Audio-GD on a higher level than Schiit. My guess is that the Master 9p is equally as good in sound quality as earlier Master 9 models before the recent LE/HE revisions. The Master 9p has quite a bit more power to the headphones than the HE9-LE. Only Kingwa could really tell you which sounds the best, to which he will probably say the HE-mk3. But if you want a AIO for headphones and speakers, the 9p is probably outstanding. Audio-GD does very good updates to their designs over time. I have no doubt that the differences in the 9p are mostly just power delivery and slight tonal shifts.
Advice: Also do NOT put any headphone on speaker taps. It is soo, a stupid idea, and only show the weakness of findings, if there is any, from given experience. I will not tell you why, because I discovered just today why people do such ignorance.
Trust me it is all in the source. Every secret you are looking for. Yes headphone may need power. Going to the extreme of speaker taps = weakness of findings/experience
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@Nayyte what a timing, even though it had nothing to do with your post
They are probably trying to sell it as an improved 9 hench the naming.Doing the calculations, it seems like the HE-9 LE/MK3 are also just barely within the recommended spec for Tungsten's. Given that the HE-9's are regarded as the step up from the M9's, I'm wondering if having that additional power/voltage/current would be more beneficial versus the higher model.
Hoping someone smarter and more experienced can help.
I would strongly advice using speaker taps. My 20$ receiver beats just about everything. I havent done a comparison with the master19 yet though may be the giant killer.Advice: Also do NOT put any headphone on speaker taps. It is soo, a stupid idea, and only show the weakness of findings, if there is any, from given experience. I will not tell you why, because I discovered just today why people do such ignorance.
Trust me it is all in the source. Every secret you are looking for. Yes headphone may need power. Going to the extreme of speaker taps = weakness of findings/experience
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@Nayyte what a timing, even though it had nothing to do with your post
I've read many times planars need more current then voltage... so I kinda get the statement but why/how would I benefit when using it as preamp? Let's say in front of an OTC tube amp especially... what would change in comparison to using said tube amp directley to the DAC?thanks to its fully ACSS/current design for hungry headphones both preamp and headamp
Ohh yeah I meant ACSS output connectors which is for audio-gd amps....so no fully in that termI've read many times planars need more current then voltage... so I kinda get the statement but why/how would I benefit when using it as preamp? Let's say in front of an OTC tube amp especially... what would change in comparison to using said tube amp directley to the DAC?
Do ACSS really make a difference? I am trying now with the NFB10.32 together with the Master19 but there is no difference in sound acss vs rca at allOhh yeah I meant ACSS output connectors which is for audio-gd amps....so no fully in that term
However it seems still the whole amp is designed around ACSS.