Audio-GD DI-20

Feb 14, 2025 at 6:27 AM Post #5,431 of 5,452
I am having an issue with my di20he and my ANK 4.1x. The di20he works fine with i2s into my PS DS Mk1 but my ank4.1x only has coax and usb input. Coax doesn't work either I get static sound or nothing. USB out of my pc into the ANK 4.1x works fine.

Any idea what could be wrong?
Sample rate/bit-depth settings? Did you try any other? Start from 16/44.1kHz, then increase to 24bits.

Currently ANK supports maximum 24/96kHz, older versions can be further limited. USB receiver may accept 32-bits by truncating to 24-bits. S/PDIF is different.

To test whether DI-20HE is not damaged, test S/PDIF playback with PS DAC first.
 
Feb 14, 2025 at 1:48 PM Post #5,432 of 5,452
Sample rate/bit-depth settings? Did you try any other? Start from 16/44.1kHz, then increase to 24bits.

Currently ANK supports maximum 24/96kHz, older versions can be further limited. USB receiver may accept 32-bits by truncating to 24-bits. S/PDIF is different.

To test whether DI-20HE is not damaged, test S/PDIF playback with PS DAC first.

Tried all different sample rates, didn't work. DI20HE into my psds with coax works totally fine.

So seems either the coax wiring in ANK is bad or di20he and ank just don't like each other.
 
Feb 14, 2025 at 3:51 PM Post #5,433 of 5,452
Tried all different sample rates, didn't work. DI20HE into my psds with coax works totally fine.

So seems either the coax wiring in ANK is bad or di20he and ank just don't like each other.
Different pair would work. It happens when oscilator frequency differ to much and PLL of the receiver do not lock to the source. AN is an audiophile company, they tune PLL for the lowest jitter, unfortunately such tuning has very narrow locking range.

Ask AN whether there is a provision for adjusting internal oscilator frequency.
 
Feb 23, 2025 at 2:46 PM Post #5,434 of 5,452
Good evening everyone
I have had an Audio GD Master 7 dac from the end of 2016 with firmware version V7 for a few years. The DAC is set in NOS mode (the jumper is not inserted in the "Bypass" position). The signal to the DAC arrives in i2S through an Audio GD Di20 interface via an HDMI cable.
From a discussion currently underway with a group of friends, the doubt emerged as to whether it would be better to use the Accusilicon 90/98M clock present on the interface instead of the older (and unknown) clock present on the Master 7.
From what I have been able to understand, a jumper should be placed on the "PLLEN" position inside the DAC and, automatically, the Di20 interface clock would take command of the Master 7.
Is that so?
I didn't find clear indications about this on the AudioGD website.
What also creates even more doubts for me is the fact that in the Master 7 there are four jumperable positions "CLKS1", "CLKS0", "OWS1" and "OWS0", which make me think they refer to clock functions, but there is no mention of these four positions and their function and method of use on the AudioGD website.
Is there anyone who has already resolved this doubt and tried using the Di20 clock?
Have you achieved tangible benefits?
Thank you
 
Mar 3, 2025 at 4:39 PM Post #5,436 of 5,452
I just got my used DI-20 after noticing how nobody with the R8 I have or + can stop talking about how good their DAC's sound now. Nobody selling used DI-20's actually wants to save you any money from a new DI-25, but nonetheless, already with this older DI-20 in front of my DAC, rebuilding my lousy desktop's USB expansion card's digital output (yes, a $35 7-port USB 3.1 card kept my audio from sounding like it came out of the cheapest and noisiest port possible, I don't know if that can save me from eventually having to drop $500 on a dedicated audiophile quiet USB port expansion card) into my choice of premium output flavors, including 2 custom methods that my DAC designer tried to beat SP/DIF with. I tried the standard RCA coax and also the pro AES/EBU digital outputs, but right away, switching back to I2S over HDMI, that one makes the singers seem frail and like there is an actual struggle for humanity going on, and so that convinces me it's the winner of the outputs initially, even though more comparisons will come after >1 week of ownership.
Anyways, first impressions after installing DI-20 in front of the original 2019 R8: A new gigantic soundstage outside of width, (which apparently on my HD800's, will make you all jealous of its size VS anything else), it's all more open and clear, and it also all gets a really nice boost to SLAM from the bass, which I didn't know I wasn't getting before.
2nd impressions, I have to keep on turning the volume up, to subconsciously compensate for it not being all full of noise, and therefore not being able to hear it as plainly. Nope, after the DI-20, I no longer am a headphone listener who says he prefers lower volumes also. Actually, if I crank up my speakers, my cranky mean neighbors will have to hear playback that beats anything they ever hear anywhere else, also. Hmm, no, I'm sticking to headphones first, and reports of nothing beating my HD800's until >$3k (I perfect their awful Grado FR by letting Sonarworks EQ them using mic's) is just making me a happier early-adopter after my HD600 love-life made me have to admit that I still only spent $500, and in all fairness, surely >$100k speaker drivers can still show them up. Yup, non-circumaural leather pads are keeping me from going with the SR 007's instead, apparently these are also lighter with earcups that aren't shy of taking up half of your head each, cushioned by a fabric instead of lambskin, and finally, even the hot-shot $3k Audeze planars with the FR everyone loves only give bass slam instead of being analytical for all your tracks, like the HD800's. So, these remain my kings of headphone presentation-based reference home monitoring.
No, since I realized I've never even spent money on speaker cable before, I'll have to wait until my $200 bi-wire speaker cables arrive in the mail, before being mean to my mean neighbors with a sound system that destroys them. Except that's probably why they're mean, sound systems too easily beat them, lol!

Anyways, in short, impression #2: Crank it up, you can hardly hear anything properly without any noise added to it, anymore! Especially if its a track without any slamming bass to let you know DI-20 has obviously not only increased your sound stages size and open-ness outside of plain wideness, which you may soon also increase the size of by increasing the volume level, as normal per pair of open-backs. Volume levels will now let me hear just as much loudness as before, except it's not due to annoyingly cheap non-dedicated USB port noise. With the right tracks, I get more dynamics, and get the additional opportunity to appreciate the 24 bit maximum of dynamic accuracy for the samples our gear can currently possibly handle playing back, after that, all we can ask for is no more sampling, just pure everchanging audio.
Upgrading the input to my R8 with the DI-20 got rid of lots of silent noise somehow. I have to turn it up more again to hear more loudness, but my dynamics are showing off inside of a gigantic soundstage now, compared to before, so this is actually still just temporary dynamic showing off. The appreciation at higher volume levels for the extra 50% of loudness detail recording is already spoiling my party when a 16 bit track comes back on. Especially if it's a good one, from pre-2022, while only I ever wanted more than CD's original bare minimum of human maximum audibility # of detail samples per second of forging humanity as perfection.

Spending 1/3 of the $ already included inside of my DAC for a device to put in between my audio-awful desktop PC, except for it's big juicy power cable making it more better than by default cable, oh, and it's silent and confident reads from an external USB powered fast buffering-speed SSD, is so simply only playing no more than the complete encirclement of the surrounding musicians, that my volume knob is begging to get turned up, just to get the old loudness levels, meanwhile what that will do for my new dynamics, especially on 24 bit releases, with its 50% boost to degrees of volume precision keeping things quieter than plain limited 16 bit recordings and the equivalent vinyl format allowed for. Tape got higher, so recordings switched to it, but you know you'd never spend $200 for an album on its original type of reel, and the best for the least $ was still vinyl for an extra lower-fi age outside of the studio master tape copy. Now, you can get better dynamic range by digital than your gear can differentiate, as long as you let yourself get fooled into forgetting that reality is everchanging audio, not samples of detail per second. But it's true, 20 year old versions of stuff who's engineers already went for 96khz versions of, still sounds like it at least didn't lose as badly as CD rate, and actually does make me feel better still, even though it's still only double the original samples of detail per second rate. But yeah, these guys have already knowing I'd like to hear him add some slam to their thing going for them.
Seriously, Muse is a three piece outfit, but my WAV versions of them makes it painfully obvious that those poor only those 3 guys are making any sounds at all coming out of my headphones for a change, that my volume knob is just begging to get cranked, to make fun of the old noisiness, outside of my newer 24 bit degrees of relative loudness per sample for output. Whoah, now its like a concert, except my gear is a cover version snapshot of the 3 of them alone in silence-treated studio space, for this very playback in my living room! If only everyone made recording engineers have to make a 2nd binaural version of every recording, for headphone choice's concurrent supremacy of the sweet spot as well.
 
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Mar 6, 2025 at 1:56 PM Post #5,437 of 5,452
Hi! I've hoped that mabye one of you guys can answer me on this.

I just bought a Audio GD DI24 HE and a 75ohm bnc cable with rca adapters. When connecting the cable into coax on my dac and spdif on the 24he i get sound. But when i try the bnc output into bnc on my dac (Hegel hd30), i get no sound.
I also tried bnc 75r output on the audio gd and into coax with rca adapter on my dac. still no sound. It does not get any signal.

I get sound with rca out from 24he and bnc into dac. So it's just the bnc output that is not working.

Do i need firmware update on the audio gd or is it any settings i need to change for the bnc to work?

Thanks!
 
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Mar 9, 2025 at 10:09 AM Post #5,438 of 5,452
Exactly what @Oepsie wrote... This is what happens... I had to limit the sampling rate to 44.1 KHZ on the Eversolo...
I am panicking... so I have DMP ME and want to get a Laiv Harmony or Pontus 15th but DMPZ does not have IIS. Do I thought the di20HE to go in between

So is this issue, and the need to limit the sampling because if a DMP -> DI20 (USB) issue, or is it more the backend DI20 -> DAC (IIS/AES) interface?

I am not seeing the benefit of all this high-end expensive equipment if I am limited to CD quality. Please let me know if I am misunderstanding this issue/dolution

Thank you
 
Mar 16, 2025 at 7:56 PM Post #5,439 of 5,452
I am panicking... so I have DMP ME and want to get a Laiv Harmony or Pontus 15th but DMPZ does not have IIS. Do I thought the di20HE to go in between

So is this issue, and the need to limit the sampling because if a DMP -> DI20 (USB) issue, or is it more the backend DI20 -> DAC (IIS/AES) interface?

I am not seeing the benefit of all this high-end expensive equipment if I am limited to CD quality. Please let me know if I am misunderstanding this issue/dolution

Thank you

Lots of time passed since then... I returned that DI20HE.... Apparently the unit was faulty... I have DI25HE now , using it with my MELCO N1 S38 connected with coax to a Luxman D10X. It works perfectly and sounds amazing...
I hope this helps
 
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Apr 6, 2025 at 10:22 PM Post #5,441 of 5,452
Hello. Hope this is the right place to post this. I can not find a way to start a new thread (new user issue?)

So I just bought Laiv Harmony DAC to use with my di20HE using I2S

Eversolo DMP A6 -> USB -> DI20 HE -> I2S -> HARMONY

There is no sound. Harmony displays message "signal missing or unsupported sampling rate"

Both the Harmony and DI20HE have many config settings to match I2S endpoints. I confirmed with Audio GD that the Laiv Harmony Audio Mode is compatible with the GD mode N1

I have also tried 2 different cables and same issue exists

Has anyone had any kind of issue like this? The implementation seems straight forward but I guess can be tricky

I ordered a new DAC with I2S to test DI20HE and a back ordered SMSL PO100 Pro to test the Laiv. Will update post with any discoveries

Any help would be aporeciated

Thank you

========• UPDATE =========

So took some pictures and sent to Audio GD. They are stating the HDMI connector is broken and needs replacing. Going to open up the unit this week to confirm. At this point appears to be hardware related. Thank you for any responses

On another note. Just FYI. The coaxial output on DI20HE does not appear to be compatible with all DACs. It works with my Eversolo DAC-Z8 but not Laiv Harmony. Audio GD thinks it's a tolerance issue with the Laiv. Although that makes sense so have no way to verify
 

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Apr 7, 2025 at 3:50 AM Post #5,442 of 5,452
I connected the Afterdark "Emperor Double Crown" clock to the AudioGd Di20 interface which is in turn connected to the AudioGd Master 7 dac via I2S.
It's crazy what the Emperor Double Crown does, crazy!!
An improvement that has revolutionized my stereo system!
Everything cleaner, more alive, more focused, everything more real!
I had tried a LHY OcK1 clock and I had noticed a slight improvement.
The improvement that the Afterdark Emperor Double Crown brings is incredible and makes you consider the LHY clock as garbage.
Now I have to choose a good BNC-BNC cable for the clock.
I am undecided between the Neotech NEVD 1001, the Oyaide BC-510 and the Furutech FX-Alpha digital AG.
Which one would you recommend among the three mentioned, and why?
As for the length of the BNC cables to be used with the clock, is it true that it must be at least 60 cm?
 
Apr 7, 2025 at 4:08 AM Post #5,443 of 5,452
There is no sound. Harmony displays message "signal missing or unsupported sampling rate"
It looks compatible. I would check the following on the DAC menu:

- Input selected
- Input clock for I2S (internal/I2S), try both
- Disconnect all other sources, as Harmony seems doing smart autoconfiguration.

There is reset option, perhaps needed, try it.
 
Apr 7, 2025 at 9:48 AM Post #5,444 of 5,452
I connected the Afterdark "Emperor Double Crown" clock to the AudioGd Di20 interface which is in turn connected to the AudioGd Master 7 dac via I2S.
It's crazy what the Emperor Double Crown does, crazy!!
An improvement that has revolutionized my stereo system!
Everything cleaner, more alive, more focused, everything more real!
I had tried a LHY OcK1 clock and I had noticed a slight improvement.
The improvement that the Afterdark Emperor Double Crown brings is incredible and makes you consider the LHY clock as garbage.
Now I have to choose a good BNC-BNC cable for the clock.
I am undecided between the Neotech NEVD 1001, the Oyaide BC-510 and the Furutech FX-Alpha digital AG.
Which one would you recommend among the three mentioned, and why?
As for the length of the BNC cables to be used with the clock, is it true that it must be at least 60 cm?
So took some pictures and sent to Audio GD. They are stating the HDMI connector is broken and needs replacing. Going to open up the unit this week to confirm. At this point appears to be hardware related. Thank you for any responses

On another note. Just FYI. The coaxial output on DI20HE does not appear to be compatible with all DACs. It works with my Eversolo DAC-Z8 but not Laiv Harmony. Audio GD thinks it's a tolerance issue with the Laiv. Although that makes sense so have no way to v
 
Apr 7, 2025 at 12:12 PM Post #5,445 of 5,452
On another note. Just FYI. The coaxial output on DI20HE does not appear to be compatible with all DACs. It works with my Eversolo DAC-Z8 but not Laiv Harmony. Audio GD thinks it's a tolerance issue with the Laiv. Although that makes sense so have no way to v
It could be the same issue as with I2S. Clock frequency on the Harmony is out of locking range. It happens, Audio GD is right. In the case of I2S, selecting internal clock might help. See this:
- Input clock for I2S (internal/I2S), try both
 
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