Boerd
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Thank you for taking the time to write down all the details. Much appreciated!
I couldn't agree more!
360 pages later, I still see people buying the 200ohm latest version when the 100ohm is vastly superior but not available anymore...
All the people owning the 100ohm version : DO NOT MAKE the "upgrade" because this is NOT AN UPGRADE, but a downgrade.
The fact is : Audeze made out of this world headphones with the first version of the LCD 4 sounding absolutely glorious even at very high level.
I feel that I can turn the knob forever on mine because the incredible clarity with deep intense sense of space and unparalleled bass and sub bass definition, drivable by most amps on the market.
But, of course, because of this addictive sound and the fact that owners are tempted to listen loud because the sound stay perfect at high level, but, because on the extremely thin drivers , they can break ...
Audeze didn't take the risk to replace for a brand new or make the 100ohm more resistant, because replace cost A LOT and make a more resistant one is maybe (probably) impossible.
So they decide to replace the 100ohm, which is, the ONLY AND UNIQUE real LCD 4 by a completely ANOTHER pair of headphone, far less sensitive, with double of resistance, almost undrivable correctly (except with something like the [COLOR=333333]Viva Egoista 845 or equal...so you see how I said it is not properly drivable)[/COLOR] : of course you can have the power, but never reach the fabulous impact of the 100ohm. Even the Abyss can be driven easier than the 200ohm LCD 4 ! Yeap. They do that to have a result : you cannot break them anymore, but you cannot obtain the magnificent sound of the original version !
Plus all the mesurement on the LCD 4 200ohm shows that the tech specs are wrong and it is probably more resistant than 200ohm and less sensitive...Just remember the last LCD 4 version is the less sensitive and the more resistant of all Audeze.
I do not know why some people here say the 200ohm is better... People from Audeze or psycho acoustic effect ? Maybe.
For the 200ohm version, Audeze says : you have to use an amp from 1 to 4 watts... Yeap, the King audeze amp cannot reach 4W !!! So even the amp for the lcd 4 is made for the 100ohm version and cannot drive the 200ohm properly.
The fact is : Audeze do not let the choice to the customer... I don't even know how something like this can be legal... I have a product, and in case of problem, no repair, you have no choice, you have to take another model absolutely and entirely different to the one you bought !
Plenty of people, including me did the ABX test 100ohm and 200ohm side by side, 100% of the listeners prefer the 100ohm.
Just think about it.
The 100ohm version is now the Graal and became magically an incredible collector.
I'm listening to them now and they are the most addictive incredible headphones I ever own.
I wish you good luck to find one.
... LCD 4 by a completely ANOTHER pair of headphone, far less sensitive, with double of resistance, almost undrivable correctly (except with something like the Viva Egoista 845 or equal...so you see how I said it is not properly drivable) : of course you can have the power, but never reach the fabulous impact of the 100ohm...
Seriously i didn't write this to increase the price of anything just to warn 100ohm owner to keep it like this as long as they can. Enjoy your "upgraded" lcd 4 man hahaha.
I feel that I can turn the knob forever on mine because the incredible clarity with deep intense sense of space and unparalleled bass and sub bass definition, drivable by most amps on the market.
But, of course, because of this addictive sound and the fact that owners are tempted to listen loud because the sound stay perfect at high level, but, because on the extremely thin drivers , they can break ...
Audeze didn't take the risk to replace for a brand new or make the 100ohm more resistant, because replace cost A LOT and make a more resistant one is maybe (probably) impossible.
So they decide to replace the 100ohm, which is, the ONLY AND UNIQUE real LCD 4 by a completely ANOTHER pair of headphone, far less sensitive, with double of resistance, almost undrivable correctly (except with something like the Viva Egoista 845 or equal...so you see how I said it is not properly drivable) : of course you can have the power, but never reach the fabulous impact of the 100ohm. Even the Abyss can be driven easier than the 200ohm LCD 4 ! Yeap. They do that to have a result : you cannot break them anymore, but you cannot obtain the magnificent sound of the original version !
For the 200ohm version, Audeze says : you have to use an amp from 1 to 4 watts... Yeap, the King audeze amp cannot reach 4W !!! So even the amp for the lcd 4 is made for the 100ohm version and cannot drive the 200ohm properly.
The fact is : Audeze do not let the choice to the customer... I don't even know how something like this can be legal... I have a product, and in case of problem, no repair, you have no choice, you have to take another model absolutely and entirely different to the one you bought !
Plenty of people, including me did the ABX test 100ohm and 200ohm side by side, 100% of the listeners prefer the 100ohm.