Dec 16, 2021 at 2:40 PM Post #871 of 2,112

Electrostatic headphone with great bass and very nice vocals. You can still see the Audeze house sound in these. Very nice.

Yes the only eletrostatic HP (beside my HE1) that moves enough air mass from the lows 👍

NOMAX

PS.also more as LCD5 😉
 
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Dec 16, 2021 at 2:48 PM Post #872 of 2,112
Yes the only eletrostatic HP (beside my HE1) that moves enough air mass from the lows 👍

NOMAX

PS.also more as LCD5 😉
This.

What startled me owning both CRBN and LCD5, is how much the E-stat sounds richer and the Planar in this case almost "more e-stat-y".

CRBN indeed has more bass than LCD5, but more in the 100-250Hz range specifically. Or at least, it seems more present.
 
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Dec 16, 2021 at 3:00 PM Post #873 of 2,112
The CRBN is in my opinion in terms of Tonality/Speed/spatiality/soundstage and also wearing comfort a higher league as LCD5

NOMAX
 
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Dec 16, 2021 at 3:22 PM Post #875 of 2,112
Yes the only eletrostatic HP (beside my HE1) that moves enough air mass from the lows 👍

NOMAX

PS.also more as LCD5 😉
Dankeschön, Klaus
 
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Dec 16, 2021 at 3:29 PM Post #876 of 2,112
Oh Thomas, the whole darn audio-world by now knows that you’re obsessed with highest decibel “bass slam” - so would you PLEASE accept that you don’t own to define the “audio norm” of us normal listeners?

Honestly, it gets old, very VERY OLD…

Dankeschön, Klaus
He actually prefers a bright signature and is by no means a Bass head...
 
Dec 16, 2021 at 3:34 PM Post #877 of 2,112
I am 😉

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PS.my average listening level is 93 db 😉
And yes...when i test a Headphone for few minutes it must also be able to above 100 db with all genres without distortion and the CRBN can show it 👍
No one buy a Headphone that can only 90 db🤣🤣
 
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Dec 16, 2021 at 3:44 PM Post #878 of 2,112
This.

What startled me owning both CRBN and LCD5, is how much the E-stat sounds richer and the Planar in this case almost "more e-stat-y".

CRBN indeed has more bass than LCD5, but more in the 100-250Hz range specifically. Or at least, it seems more present.

I think beside the CRBN Transducer with this Nanotube film what they did👍.....they also did a good job with this special designed ear pads 😉

NOMAX
 
Dec 16, 2021 at 3:47 PM Post #879 of 2,112
The only way I’m gonna get a good idea of what these sound like is by actually listening.

Way too many conflicting opinions on the CRBN.

I probably won’t have any access for a long while.
 
Dec 16, 2021 at 4:32 PM Post #880 of 2,112
After more listening to the CRBNs it appears that they are tuned quite forward in the mids. For me, they can border on shoutiness without EQ to tone them down. It's turning out that these headphones need a fair amount of EQ for what I listen to (classical). I am hoping someone who is skilled with EQ profiles will post some good EQ examples for the CRBN.
 
Dec 16, 2021 at 5:11 PM Post #881 of 2,112
First impressions: SR1a-like speed and resolution, Utopia-like bass, Solitaire P-like soundstage. Also, they are brutal with poorly recorded tracks (it's kinda crazy).

My headphones still need to get burned in (along with my amp), but quick initial impressions are impressive. I need to "learn" the new headphones as well, but more to come...

Edit: Bass texture is very impressive. Mids are good as well. The "electrostatic" sound is definitely there, which makes them sound different than my traditional headphones. I like 'em.
 
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Dec 16, 2021 at 5:28 PM Post #882 of 2,112
After more listening to the CRBNs it appears that they are tuned quite forward in the mids. For me, they can border on shoutiness without EQ to tone them down. It's turning out that these headphones need a fair amount of EQ for what I listen to (classical). I am hoping someone who is skilled with EQ profiles will post some good EQ examples for the CRBN.
Really surprised by this reaction. We actually did a whole lot of listening tests with many classical musicians. Before releasing CRBN, we had Matrin Chalifour at the Sound City studios with Tony berg recording the session. We recorded several pieces that day and played them back almost immediately going back and forth. We also recorded several other Artists that day. in different genres.

In Martin's own words, these were the most natural sounding. (There is a video on the Audeze website about the CRBN). We also tested it with a host of other Sound engineers. Almost everyone uses/used it without EQ.

What amp are you using ?
 
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Dec 16, 2021 at 5:42 PM Post #883 of 2,112
Really surprised by this reaction. We actually did a whole lot of listening tests with many classical musicians. Before releasing CRBN, we had Matrin Chalifour at the Sound City studios with Tony berg recording the session. We recorded several pieces that day and played them back almost immediately going back and forth. We also recorded several other Artists that day. in different genres.

In Martin's own words, these were the most natural sounding. (There is a video on the Audeze website about the CRBN). We also tested it with a host of other Sound engineers. Almost everyone uses/used it without EQ.

What amp are you using ?
Poor BTD, he just won't catch a break regarding his amp :-) I agree though, something may be off in his system or synergy, or maybe he got a dud from Audeze, who knows, because truly, they were the most natural headphones I've heard.
 
Dec 16, 2021 at 6:48 PM Post #884 of 2,112
I am sorry to be the lone voice of dissent on the CRBNs. Maybe it is my amplification that is coloring my perspective. I am using the ifi pro iESL energizer connected to the speaker taps of a Ragnarok2 Maybe this isn't good enough. Given the cost of the CRBNs and the iESL, which I got just for the CRBNs, I am loathe to spend a few thousand more on an estat amplifier when I can't be sure that it will make a material difference. Honestly and truly, I want to like these or I wouldn't have bought them so quickly. Well, I will just wait until more people weigh in on how they sound to them. I am a trained musician as well and I know what I hear, but I will be the first to admit that maybe it's my system. Thanks.
 
Dec 16, 2021 at 7:44 PM Post #885 of 2,112
I am sorry to be the lone voice of dissent on the CRBNs. Maybe it is my amplification that is coloring my perspective. I am using the ifi pro iESL energizer connected to the speaker taps of a Ragnarok2 Maybe this isn't good enough. Given the cost of the CRBNs and the iESL, which I got just for the CRBNs, I am loathe to spend a few thousand more on an estat amplifier when I can't be sure that it will make a material difference. Honestly and truly, I want to like these or I wouldn't have bought them so quickly. Well, I will just wait until more people weigh in on how they sound to them. I am a trained musician as well and I know what I hear, but I will be the first to admit that maybe it's my system. Thanks.

I'm not familiar with the gear you're using, but even on a lowly backup Stax amp it was pretty easy for me to see how good the CRBN is. It's definitely a true TOTL quality level pair of headphones. It may be that they just aren't your cup of tea, which would be ok. They definitely are* forward (which I really like btw, similar to the 009), and they're less polite than the Susvara (which I know you've mentioned loving) for sure in a typical stat kind of way.

I definitely would try to see if you could take them somewhere to demo with a better amp, but I know that can be hard with electrostatic amps. The only thing again that I would reiterate is that I wouldn't write off all stats if that's ultimately the case for, as the CRBN are a bit less "stat like" than many others.
 
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