Hello,
I have also a PA10 . Bought it as a impulsbuy, what normaly rarely happens. When i was reading about the different Current Operational options and the other Descriptions of the Circuit made sense to me also.. I got a good deal aswell, so coudn t restrain. It s quiet new, not really burnt in .
I have 3 Daps. Ibasso Dx200 with Amp 1/2/8. I love Amp 8 but it doesn t have a real Lineout. So i tried Amp 1 and 2. Not the biggest Fan of Amp1. But Amp 2 has some Qualities i like. DIY 3,5mm Cable with Moonaudio Blue Dragon Wire Dac to Amp.
First try was my trusty Sennheiser HD 540 Gold 600 Ohm. Yeah, what a full but natural 3D Sound with great Noteweight , Deep Stage , great combo, no contest to the Ampout of Amp 2. Everything was shrinked ,powerless and blurry. Back to PA10 , tried the different Curent Bias . First Stage is what i was listing to. Second Stage with 50ma current . Gee, everything was lower in Volume and not very resolving. 3. Stage 100 ma current. The same but worse. After a short Thought it made Sense to me. The 600 Ohm Load from HD 540 was the Reason. High Impedance Headphones doesn t require lots of Current but high Voltage.
So with gaining the Current, it seems i lowered the Voltage . At a given Power , Ohms Law came around the Corner. u=i*r , r =u/I ,i= u/R . Ok .
The normal Biaspoint of the Amp was indeed mindblowing good with HD 540.
Then i connected my Looto Paw Gold . I pluged my Massdrop Plus, A IEM i know like my Pocket because i use him for mixingwork ,when i am at home or on the road. With Looto Paw Gold and DX 200 Amp 8 he has a great neutral Frequenzyresponse , with a moderat not very deep Stage. After plugging him to PA 10 i couldn t believe what i was hearing. i put him out of my Ears to confirm it s Himself. Wow, such a big, deep Stage with such a Authoryty. a workinghorse became a PartyKing. Don t know what to say. The other Biasstages . 50ma . Stronger Noteweight bigger Authoryty, stronger Bass Quantity . 100ma even more of this but for my Taste it was too much. But at 50ma, what a Truck.
Next was Fearless S8f (15 Ohm ). A Bugdged Detailmonster . Fast but sometimes a little thin, quiet agressive Uppermidrange and moderat Bass in Quantity but great Quality for a BA Bass. Expansive , not too deep and hight Stage
Pa 10 made him also somehow a different IEM . I love was i was hearing . Much bigger Stage in Deep and High. Authoritarian is the Word probaly. Better Bass , better uppermids, more natural Highs. First Biasstage was great, 50 ma made him more fun and thicker sounding , not shure if i like it , the jury is still out. But it s great that i can easy switch between the Modes . 100 ma , naa , too much, it s getting blurry.
Fearless Roland Roland ( 5 Ohm ) . Hmm, Ohms Law punish again. The 1 Ohm ( quiet High ) or so Outputimpedance of PA 10 comes into play. Not a perfect Impedancematch. Stage was great, Vocals sounded great but a little darker ( is this even possible with Roland ?) .At louder Listininglevels the highs where even less and i thought i can hear some Distortion. The Mids sounded spectaculär and i think i never heard the Guitars of Slipnot like this, absolutly brilliant. But the Highs ? I am Not sure if i like it. When switched to the Ampout of Looto PG the highs where back, ( on a low level like the nature of Roland. ) When listing very low ( my main listing Level ) everything was back how i am used to. But the Stage was shrinked and everything was more diffuse, but still on a great Level. But the Highs were back although LPG has also a quiet high outputimpedance. For me i like Roland best with my Ibasso DX 200 Amp 8 ( 0, 3 Ohm Output balanced )
Was not very happy with the Lineout of Amp 1 and Ibasso DX 80.
I am very happy i bought PA 10 , it was a good idea to buy. It left a Hole in my Pocket but it s worth it for me. For" normal " IEMS and Overears 10- 300 Ohm it s also a good Impedancematch if you want to use the different currentstages. For the "normal" lowest setting every Iem over 10 ohm and Highimpedance Overears are more than fine.
The sheer Power, big but natural 3D Stage and the ability to launch another dynamic Rocket if asked for . Very special.
Please take my words with a grain of Salt , it s a very personal Opinion.
My PA 10 hasn t much Hours on the clock , so it might change a little over Time. Most of the Time Things get better after Burnin, but not always, sometimes it s the opposit ( for my taste )
Greetings
Lothar
I have also a PA10 . Bought it as a impulsbuy, what normaly rarely happens. When i was reading about the different Current Operational options and the other Descriptions of the Circuit made sense to me also.. I got a good deal aswell, so coudn t restrain. It s quiet new, not really burnt in .
I have 3 Daps. Ibasso Dx200 with Amp 1/2/8. I love Amp 8 but it doesn t have a real Lineout. So i tried Amp 1 and 2. Not the biggest Fan of Amp1. But Amp 2 has some Qualities i like. DIY 3,5mm Cable with Moonaudio Blue Dragon Wire Dac to Amp.
First try was my trusty Sennheiser HD 540 Gold 600 Ohm. Yeah, what a full but natural 3D Sound with great Noteweight , Deep Stage , great combo, no contest to the Ampout of Amp 2. Everything was shrinked ,powerless and blurry. Back to PA10 , tried the different Curent Bias . First Stage is what i was listing to. Second Stage with 50ma current . Gee, everything was lower in Volume and not very resolving. 3. Stage 100 ma current. The same but worse. After a short Thought it made Sense to me. The 600 Ohm Load from HD 540 was the Reason. High Impedance Headphones doesn t require lots of Current but high Voltage.
So with gaining the Current, it seems i lowered the Voltage . At a given Power , Ohms Law came around the Corner. u=i*r , r =u/I ,i= u/R . Ok .
The normal Biaspoint of the Amp was indeed mindblowing good with HD 540.
Then i connected my Looto Paw Gold . I pluged my Massdrop Plus, A IEM i know like my Pocket because i use him for mixingwork ,when i am at home or on the road. With Looto Paw Gold and DX 200 Amp 8 he has a great neutral Frequenzyresponse , with a moderat not very deep Stage. After plugging him to PA 10 i couldn t believe what i was hearing. i put him out of my Ears to confirm it s Himself. Wow, such a big, deep Stage with such a Authoryty. a workinghorse became a PartyKing. Don t know what to say. The other Biasstages . 50ma . Stronger Noteweight bigger Authoryty, stronger Bass Quantity . 100ma even more of this but for my Taste it was too much. But at 50ma, what a Truck.
Next was Fearless S8f (15 Ohm ). A Bugdged Detailmonster . Fast but sometimes a little thin, quiet agressive Uppermidrange and moderat Bass in Quantity but great Quality for a BA Bass. Expansive , not too deep and hight Stage
Pa 10 made him also somehow a different IEM . I love was i was hearing . Much bigger Stage in Deep and High. Authoritarian is the Word probaly. Better Bass , better uppermids, more natural Highs. First Biasstage was great, 50 ma made him more fun and thicker sounding , not shure if i like it , the jury is still out. But it s great that i can easy switch between the Modes . 100 ma , naa , too much, it s getting blurry.
Fearless Roland Roland ( 5 Ohm ) . Hmm, Ohms Law punish again. The 1 Ohm ( quiet High ) or so Outputimpedance of PA 10 comes into play. Not a perfect Impedancematch. Stage was great, Vocals sounded great but a little darker ( is this even possible with Roland ?) .At louder Listininglevels the highs where even less and i thought i can hear some Distortion. The Mids sounded spectaculär and i think i never heard the Guitars of Slipnot like this, absolutly brilliant. But the Highs ? I am Not sure if i like it. When switched to the Ampout of Looto PG the highs where back, ( on a low level like the nature of Roland. ) When listing very low ( my main listing Level ) everything was back how i am used to. But the Stage was shrinked and everything was more diffuse, but still on a great Level. But the Highs were back although LPG has also a quiet high outputimpedance. For me i like Roland best with my Ibasso DX 200 Amp 8 ( 0, 3 Ohm Output balanced )
Was not very happy with the Lineout of Amp 1 and Ibasso DX 80.
I am very happy i bought PA 10 , it was a good idea to buy. It left a Hole in my Pocket but it s worth it for me. For" normal " IEMS and Overears 10- 300 Ohm it s also a good Impedancematch if you want to use the different currentstages. For the "normal" lowest setting every Iem over 10 ohm and Highimpedance Overears are more than fine.
The sheer Power, big but natural 3D Stage and the ability to launch another dynamic Rocket if asked for . Very special.
Please take my words with a grain of Salt , it s a very personal Opinion.
My PA 10 hasn t much Hours on the clock , so it might change a little over Time. Most of the Time Things get better after Burnin, but not always, sometimes it s the opposit ( for my taste )
Greetings
Lothar
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