Apodizing filter

[BS5711]

Did you not say you could hear 0.5db at 20khz then back pedaled on that ?

 

[Ghoostknight]

Did you not say you could hear 0.5db at 20khz then back pedaled on that ?

i said something along the lines that the slow roll off towards 15khz probably attributes more to the audibility than exactly the -0,5db point at 20khz

imo this is always the case with very wide EQ's, just try it yourself with a highshelf 1000hz, 0,4Q, -0,5db .... after some listening you can try to reduce the -0.5db and see what is audible for you..... in the longrun i make 0,1db adjustments on these kind of filters (i use two of them for my housecurve, currently at 1,6khz and 8khz)

 

[bigshot]

This guy is really thirsty for attention. I can imagine what he’s like in real life. I think he’s lonely and negative attention is better than no attention at all.

 

[Ghoostknight]

This guy is really thirsty for attention. I can imagine what he’s like in real life. I think he’s lonely and negative attention is better than no attention at all.

now you come up with this sentence after i went the length to proof you wrong? classic ....

 

[BS5711]

Mine isn't a "theory" is just what happened here, you said you could so something superhuman, insisted it was true, then later said you missed the mark presumably meaning in fact what you said wasn't actually accurate, that is what missed the mark indicates to me.

Very simple situation and my point being only what else have you missed the mark on ?

I give up, utterly pointless as I have found out previously, I would hit the ignore button but that goes against how I think a forum should operate.

 

[Ghoostknight]

I give up, utterly pointless as I have found out previously, I would hit the ignore button but that goes against how I think a forum should operate.

sorry mate, you are wrong

 

[BS5711]

Ghoost - "I can hear 0.5db at 20khz"

Also Ghoost - "I missed the mark at 0.5db at 20khz."

Is my understanding of the words you used inaccurate ?

Were you not stating that dogmatically insisting that you could hear a difference of 0.5db at 20khz was not in fact an accurate statement ?

 

[bigshot]

You've richly earned a curt and impolite dismissal.

 

[Ghoostknight]

Ghoost - "I can hear 0.5db at 20khz"

Also Ghoost - "I missed the mark at 0.5db at 20khz."

Is my understanding or the words you used inaccurate ?

Were you not stating that dogmatically insisting that you could hear a difference of 0.5db at 20khz was not in fact an accurate statement ?

well, objectivists - a low pass at 24khz cant be audible....

so i proofed you either way wrong

Is my understanding or the words you used inaccurate ?

yes, because i corrected myself in the qoute you just posted (before i did the blind test) saying i meant mainly the slow roll off towards 15khz, just like i said before...



Why is it even important to exactly proof -0,5db at 20khz, i never stated i will do a blind test on this, this topic is about reconsuction filters and my low pass blind test "should" show that there might be more to it

could we maybe stick to the topic instead your personal vendettas?

 

[BS5711]

well, objectivists - a low pass at 24khz cant be audible....

so i proofed you either way wrong


yes, because i corrected myself in the qoute you just posted (before i did the blind test) saying i meant mainly the slow roll off towards 15khz, just like i said before...



Why is it even important to exactly proof -0,5db at 20khz, i never stated i will do a blind test on this, this topic is about reconsuction filters and my low pass blind test "should" show that there might be more to it

could we maybe stick to the topic instead your personal vendettas?

It is important because you said it and it isn't accurate. I believe you know that to be 100% true.

With any other person on this forum it would not be important.

With you it is important because it is likely just one of many many things that you have said that is not accurate and one little example might (not holding my breath however) have you accept you were wrong and acknowledge that others here might actually be right about their criticisms of your claims.

Or pigs will fly .......

 

[noahyd]

Half a dB, isn't that barely what changes just by clenching your jaw or adjusting the headband with headphones?

Or moving your head less than half a meter towards speakers?

Then imagine that up in the inaudible range...

I'm probably wrong...

 

[bigshot]

I'm probably wrong...

No, you're right. That guy is just chattering nonsense.

 

[Ghoostknight]

Half a dB, isn't that barely what changes just by clenching your jaw or adjusting the headband with headphones?

Or moving your head less than half a meter towards speakers?

half a db is half a db if you A/B it, if i A/B something i dont move (heavly) around or such...

saying oh half a db doesnt matter because i can just move my head is like saying i can also listening to the stereo from the next room... (atleast i) wanna get some absolute values that can be heared..... not some practical "oh but if you do this then its less important" .... specially because a slow roll off will affect your whole "sound stage" no matter where your head is, you still have nulls and boosts at your listening position in addition to the loss from source..

imo the low pass filter could be also very much audible only by the phase shift (tho absolute phase doesnt get aknowledged in objective circles either)

 

[bigshot]

^ He doesn't really understand what people are saying. That reply doesn't address the comment he's replying to at all. It's as if he hears something different than what is being said to him and replies to an imagined prompt. I was chalking some of this up to being a non-native English speaker, but now I'm not so sure.

 

[Ghoostknight]

Then imagine that up in the inaudible range...

inaudible range are two stark words btw, some audiophiles suspect maybe inaudible for your ears but frequencys above 20khz can be still "perceived"

do you wanna take the blue or red pill ?