[markito331]

I use tidal as a source, fiio e10k + sennheiser hd 598 sr.
There is a common annoying sound present on classical music piano recordings, like a "ringing" sound, high sound, sutile but noticeable.
Could you help me? what is causing these? the piano, de recording, the mastering, what?
2 examples: grieg lyric pieces (leif ove andsnes, EMI), uchida beethoven op 109,110,111 DECCA 2006 (i only listened to 110, so try that one first).
https://i.imgur.com/gRCFUyx.png
https://i.imgur.com/pIRi8pg.png

 

[ScubaMan2017]

Welcome to Head-Fi, @markito331 . That's an odd phenomena. I'm not an audio engineer (others, please jump in [ @Ableza , do you have ideas what's going on here?]). Questions:
a. Is this coming from both speakers (in your case, each headphone?).
b. Do you hear this high pitch whine between tracks? Or is it silent?
c. I'm a unrepentant SCUBA diver, so I've damaged my right ear with diving the Saint Lawrence Seaway. Is it possible you might have tinnitus (see link)?
d. Common sense would tell me to isolate each part of your audio path in order to pinpoint that weird frequency. If it's at the source (I'm assuming you're using a PC desktop to stream TIDAL), try these links...
https://www.howtogeek.com/285429/how-to-fix-crackling-or-popping-sound-on-a-windows-pc/
...or...
https://www.howtogeek.com/185314/ask-htg-can-i-improve-the-quality-of-pandoras-music-streaming/
...or...
https://www.howtogeek.com/367910/how-to-improve-your-twitch-stream-audio-with-vst-plugins/

Heh, as I educate myself about this silly hobby, I'm learning a lot about how my hearing, nervous system (and audio nervosa ) functions.

 

[markito331]

Welcome to Head-Fi, @markito331 . That's an odd phenomena. I'm not an audio engineer (others, please jump in [ @Ableza , do you have ideas what's going on here?]). Questions:
a. Is this coming from both speakers (in your case, each headphone?).
b. Do you hear this high pitch whine between tracks? Or is it silent?
c. I'm a unrepentant SCUBA diver, so I've damaged my right ear with diving the Saint Lawrence Seaway. Is it possible you might have tinnitus (see link)?
d. Common sense would tell me to isolate each part of your audio path in order to pinpoint that weird frequency. If it's at the source (I'm assuming you're using a PC desktop to stream TIDAL), try these links...
https://www.howtogeek.com/285429/how-to-fix-crackling-or-popping-sound-on-a-windows-pc/
...or...
https://www.howtogeek.com/185314/ask-htg-can-i-improve-the-quality-of-pandoras-music-streaming/
...or...
https://www.howtogeek.com/367910/how-to-improve-your-twitch-stream-audio-with-vst-plugins/

Heh, as I educate myself about this silly hobby, I'm learning a lot about how my hearing, nervous system (and audio nervosa ) functions.

a. idk
b. after chords, not in silent moments.
c. no, i'm 24. it is only present in some recordings.
d. it's not about that

thank you

 

[Ableza]

If you hear a ringing sound it is likely in the recording. Does your system exhibit the same behavior with other recordings? How about with other types of music?

Ringing or overhang, if it was coming from your system (most likely your DAC) would happen all the time regardless of source.

 

[sam6550a]

I use tidal as a source, fiio e10k + sennheiser hd 598 sr.
There is a common annoying sound present on classical music piano recordings, like a "ringing" sound, high sound, sutile but noticeable.
Could you help me? what is causing these? the piano, de recording, the mastering, what?
2 examples: grieg lyric pieces (leif ove andsnes, EMI), uchida beethoven op 109,110,111 DECCA 2006 (i only listened to 110, so try that one first).
https://i.imgur.com/gRCFUyx.png
https://i.imgur.com/pIRi8pg.png

I believe that you are hearing the Universal Music Group's Audible Watermark. See https://www.mattmontag.com/music/universals-audible-watermark or Google "Audible Watermark". Tidal UMG files incorporate this abomination.

 

[taffy2207]

Or the Pianist left his phone on

 

[markito331]

I believe that you are hearing the Universal Music Group's Audible Watermark. See https://www.mattmontag.com/music/universals-audible-watermark or Google "Audible Watermark". Tidal UMG files incorporate this abomination.

no i'm not, thank you anyway.

 

[markito331]

Or the Pianist left his phone on

inside the piano, could be.

If you hear a ringing sound it is likely in the recording. Does your system exhibit the same behavior with other recordings? How about with other types of music?

Ringing or overhang, if it was coming from your system (most likely your DAC) would happen all the time regardless of source.

no it is not in other recordings, nor in other genres (wich i don't listen to a lot).

i thought it would be maybe my headphones broken, making an annoying noise when trying to reproduce some frequencies.

it seems it is from the recordings.

 

[Ableza]

it seems it is from the recordings.

I think that is likely.

 

[markito331]

I think that is likely.

have you heard them? they are in any streaming service. in tidal for example. give a try and tell me

 

[Ableza]

No I have not listened to it. But logic says if the issue appears only with some source material and not with others then the most likely cause is the source material.

 

[bigshot]

It sounds like a response spike in a frequency your ears are sensitive to. Combined with the percussive nature of piano, you end up with a high frequency distortion. The ringing may actually be in your ears. Turn the volume down and see if at a lower level, the ringing disappears or if the volume lowers along with the music. Small frequency response spikes in the wrong place can be a pain, You might try using a good equalizer and slide a notch up and down between 4 and 8kHz and see if you can figure out where it lies.

 

[elmoe]

Have you tried listening to the same recording with speakers / different headphones / different source? Can you hear the ringing each time? If you can, then it's the recording.

 

[markito331]

Have you tried listening to the same recording with speakers / different headphones / different source? Can you hear the ringing each time? If you can, then it's the recording.

yes i tried, and a friend tried too.

 

[ScubaMan2017]

It sounds like a response spike in a frequency your ears are sensitive to. Combined with the percussive nature of piano, you end up with a high frequency distortion. The ringing may actually be in your ears. Turn the volume down and see if at a lower level, the ringing disappears or if the volume lowers along with the music. Small frequency response spikes in the wrong place can be a pain, You might try using a good equalizer and slide a notch up and down between 4 and 8kHz and see if you can figure out where it lies.

I think @bigshot has the most effective solution to this phenomena. I chose the "let's-buy-a-gadget-to-modify-the-analog-signal"... a Loki MIni (analog equalizer). I have a hunch all popular audio software has a virtual equalizer (EQ) baked in. I suffer from a harsh high tone in my right ear... EQ provides me relief. Consider the EQ option, eh.