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Apr 17, 2018 at 2:18 PM Post #197 of 1,257
1% matched pair 12B4A GE NOS 1960's.

Mine are Tung Sol NOS, 1960's. Currently one of my headphones are Kennerton Vali, most bass I have ever heard on an open back dynamic. The 12B4A are supposed to emphasize the low end. My fear would be too much low end, but that may help the HD800/800S.
 
Apr 17, 2018 at 4:44 PM Post #198 of 1,257
Mine are Tung Sol NOS, 1960's. Currently one of my headphones are Kennerton Vali, most bass I have ever heard on an open back dynamic. The 12B4A are supposed to emphasize the low end. My fear would be too much low end, but that may help the HD800/800S.

I have a Schiit Loki between my DAC and Kenzie. Right now using 1626 with HD800S phones I need to boost the bass (20 Hz) turning the pot to 3 PM. I imagine the Loki could correct any bass emphasis with the 12B4A. Have to wait for the adapters to get here from Hong Kong. I look forward to an inexpensive experiment.
 
Apr 17, 2018 at 7:59 PM Post #199 of 1,257
I wanted to give everyone an old new idea.
12B4A tubes will work as drop in with an adapter.
The adapters have become very common on eBay ~$10 each... $25 for 2 to your door.
The 12B4A is an amazing tube, its different but sounds amazing.
The 12B4A tubes are VERY inexpensive and NOS.
And Oh by the way... they nearly double your power out.
Measures are from a brand new Encore 8/32 with input transformers and caps headed to a customer.
On av. there will be ~10% more power after break-in.
As good 1626 are still easy to get, its not such an issue but its fun to roll.
Will those also work on the original Kenzie? I’m in the need of a little more power as just scored a pair of AB-1266’s (The Abyss) for a sweet price and the Kenzie does pretty good but more power would definitely help. My notifications keep dropping off so I have missed out on a lot of this thread. Love to make a sweet amp even sweeter.
 
Apr 17, 2018 at 8:01 PM Post #200 of 1,257
Sure will. Will nearly double your power.

Will those also work on the original Kenzie? I’m in the need of a little more power as just scored a pair of AB-1266’s (The Abyss) for a sweet price and the Kenzie does pretty good but more power would definitely help. My notifications keep dropping off so I have missed out on a lot of this thread. Love to make a sweet amp even sweeter.
 
Apr 17, 2018 at 8:08 PM Post #201 of 1,257
Apr 22, 2018 at 10:52 AM Post #202 of 1,257
Sold Kenzie but have a large assortment of Vintage NOS tubes and adapters I dont need now If anyone is looking I am posting and add in for sale area
 
Apr 22, 2018 at 3:53 PM Post #203 of 1,257
Sold Kenzie but have a large assortment of Vintage NOS tubes and adapters I dont need now If anyone is looking I am posting and add in for sale area
Awesome hope some are left after I get back from vacation.
 
Apr 22, 2018 at 3:54 PM Post #204 of 1,257
That was quick.
 
Apr 24, 2018 at 11:40 AM Post #206 of 1,257
Seems people often sell their ampandsound tube amps. Why is this?
 
May 1, 2018 at 10:56 AM Post #208 of 1,257
I have a Schiit Loki between my DAC and Kenzie. Right now using 1626 with HD800S phones I need to boost the bass (20 Hz) turning the pot to 3 PM. I imagine the Loki could correct any bass emphasis with the 12B4A. Have to wait for the adapters to get here from Hong Kong. I look forward to an inexpensive experiment.

Did you get the adapters for the 12B4A's yet? Mine will be here tomorrow, interested to hear your impressions.
 
May 1, 2018 at 11:21 AM Post #209 of 1,257
Did you get the adapters for the 12B4A's yet? Mine will be here tomorrow, interested to hear your impressions.

Not yet should have by the weekend. If they do get here by Saturday will post impressions on Sunday.
 
May 4, 2018 at 9:04 PM Post #210 of 1,257
Got the adapters for the 12B4A's. Trying to get initial impressions using my Denon/Fostex w/Lawton mods and cups. Noticed so far, bass has tightened up, more pop and texture on the low end. Also, more detailed than the Tung Sol 1626, in my setup. don't think I will be going back to the 1626 variants any time soon. Have been using a Raytheon 5755 preamp tube. 12B4A's are Tung Sol NOS from the 1960's, Raytheion 5755 NOS from the 1960's.

Bass is deep with thump that can be felt in your chest, haven't had this type of bass impact with my Kenzie previously, deep sub bass is quick and tight, and doesn't interfere with the mids, really enjoying t'she new Kenzie sound. Still need to experiment with other preamp tubes at some point, don't really care for the 12SL7's or 2C52's since getting in to the 9 pin preamp tubes with adapters.

Can definitely tell that the 12B4A's deliver more power that the 1626's!
 

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