[Zimmy68]

I own both also. I throw on the Max when doing my nightly dog walk (or the AirPods Pro 2) or when I want to listen to Atmos content.
But during the day at the office, its the Bathys in DAC mode.
I love them both.

 

[vincenz]

For those who have had the APM since release, exactly what kind of changes to the sound signature have been made now with firmware updates?

 

[plakat]

For those who have had the APM since release, exactly what kind of changes to the sound signature have been made now with firmware updates?

Thats very hard to pin down since you would have to own two sets that don't update at the same time...
Everything coming from memory won't reflect those minute changes.

 

[rasmushorn]

For those who have had the APM since release, exactly what kind of changes to the sound signature have been made now with firmware updates?

No matter what the changes are, they are so small that it is not night and day. I would assume it is mainly improvements in the algorithms for noise cancelling and the new adaptive mode that affects the sound.

 

[MayaTlab]

For those who have had the APM since release, exactly what kind of changes to the sound signature have been made now with firmware updates?

For the APM, I have not seen any evidence yet of a deliberate change of intended tuning over time (ie any differences that I have seen could simply be caused by other variables such as positional variation, improper measurement methodology - this matters a lot for AirPods - or sample variation. But it could be that latter firmwares are more effective at delivering the intended targets at lower frequencies in case of a seal breach ?

 

[Epiteto]

If I enable sound accomodations via iPhone (audiogram) is this maintained even when connecting them to the MacBook?
Thank you

 

[polymathic]

If I enable sound accomodations via iPhone (audiogram) is this maintained even when connecting them to the MacBook?
Thank you

Sadly not. It only works with iPhone and iPad, but not on Mac or Apple Watch.

 

[lindijones]

For those who have had the APM since release, exactly what kind of changes to the sound signature have been made now with firmware updates?

The sound changed definitely.
It was always too muddy/dark for me but with one of the last updates they made them a little brighter, which so nice IMHO.

 

[lindijones]

If I enable sound accomodations via iPhone (audiogram) is this maintained even when connecting them to the MacBook?
Thank you

Just FYI. Unfortunately the accommodations not only affect the frequency response but also the dynamic range. So the adaptations with an audiogram are unfortunately not suitable for most audiophiles (which want to just change/adapt the sound signature but not dynamics).

 

[mr_rolo]

Just FYI. Unfortunately the accommodations not only affect the frequency response but also the dynamic range. So the adaptations with an audiogram are unfortunately not suitable for most audiophiles (which want to just change/adapt the sound signature but not dynamics).

Well the audiogram seems to make a positive impact on my AirPods. Appears to lighten the sound signature. Without the audiogram the sound is veiled to my ears.

 

[lindijones]

Well the audiogram seems to make a positive impact on my AirPods. Appears to lighten the sound signature. Without the audiogram the sound is veiled to my ears.

Might be so for you, which is understandable. But just saying…

 

[polymathic]

Just FYI. Unfortunately the accommodations not only affect the frequency response but also the dynamic range. So the adaptations with an audiogram are unfortunately not suitable for most audiophiles (which want to just change/adapt the sound signature but not dynamics).

Curious, but how do you know this? I can imagine the preset accommodations will use compression, but why would an audiogram decrease dynamic range?

 

[lindijones]

Curious, but how do you know this? I can imagine the preset accommodations will use compression, but why would an audiogram decrease dynamic range?

I don‘t know what audiology says. Maybe it‘s because people with hearing loss anyway have different threshold levels for low volume tones.
One link where it‘s described is this here:

https://hearingreview.com/inside-he...h-headphone-accommodations-as-hearing-devices

 

[polymathic]

I don‘t know what audiology says. Maybe it‘s because people with hearing loss anyway have different threshold levels for low volume tones.
One link where it‘s described is this here:

https://hearingreview.com/inside-he...h-headphone-accommodations-as-hearing-devices

This is not about how the AirPods sound when playing music. It’s about transparency mode and how they are tuned to improve external speech discernment through compression and some boosting. This is not about music playback.

 

[lindijones]

This is not about how the AirPods sound when playing music. It’s about transparency mode and how they are tuned to improve external speech discernment through compression and some boosting. This is not about music playback.

You can find articles which measure it also for music playback. You can even hear it yourself side by side.