Again I think those are unreasonable expectations from a prosumer product but honestly wired out of a good DAP or amp people might be shocked at how good they perform. I would need a LCD2 to compare but honestly they're much better plug to a top source.
Wired they're not in the same league as when in BT mode.
Ummmm, I guess I'll have to give these a listen, I have LCD-2's, AKG 712's, Senn 6XX's, also a few Grado's, I love to be proven wrong at times, but I highly doubt that the APM's will genuinely compare favourably to the LCD-2's in terms of SQ, I think the APM's are going to show up a lot peoples critical hearing ability, I'm reading a lot of Sound signature preferences rather than SQ, is there a general consensus yet from known trusted critical listeners? I'd pay a fair chunk to hear what metal571's take of these would be.
Ummmm, I guess I'll have to give these a listen, I have LCD-2's, AKG 712's, Senn 6XX's, also a few Grado's, I love to be proven wrong at times, but I highly doubt that the APM's will genuinely compare favourably to the LCD-2's in terms of SQ, I think the APM's are going to show up a lot peoples critical hearing ability,
I am not aware of any study that demonstrated that people interested into audio equipment further than the average consumer have particular hearing abilities. But perhaps there are ?
I'm reading a lot of Sound signature preferences rather than SQ, is there a general consensus yet from known trusted critical listeners? I'd pay a fair chunk to hear what metal571's take of these would be.
You won't have a general consensus and it's pointless to find one... simply because headphones interact differently with each person's anatomy.
Once headphones land their FR curve within a channel of decent values (determined by variations in preferences, particularly at lower frequencies, and variations in anatomy, particularly above 2000hz), it becomes very difficult to predict whether listener X will prefer headphones A over B.
On the other hand if headphones C land their FR curve way off this channel of decent values, the probabilities that he or she will prefer headphones A or B over C increases.
This series of articles is pretty good on that subject : https://www.headphonesty.com/2020/04/harman-target-curves-part-1/
Personally I don't derive from measurements exactly how a pair of headphones will sound when mounted on my ears as it's just impossible to do. What I use them for is to eliminate the bad weed (it the ones that are poorly engineered because their FR curve is irrational). If the measurements are reasonable, I don't presume anything.
I have yet to see, if it is possible, a set of data that shows how much anatomical variation there is in dB per frequency above 2000hz for headphones application but so far, if Crinacle's findings are shared by other measurement sources, there is a good chance that the APM might be one of the very few ANC BT over-ears on the market today that manages to land most of its FR curve within rational dB values per frequency. The lack of unnecessary significant wiggles below 2000hz for example is something that few other closed over-ears manage to have (the K371 seems to measure pretty well in that regard as well for example).
Just an hypothesis here, but perhaps what seems to be a fairly conservative peak at 3000hz might in relation to it make the lower mids a little more present to some people
Just an hypothesis here, but perhaps what seems to be a fairly conservative peak at 3000hz might in relation to it make the lower mids a little more present to some people
If adaptive EQ functions as advertised, it's hard to say what is what. It's supposed to normalize the listening experience across different ear anatomies, but those different anatomies will be used to getting different amounts of certain frequencies based on their assortment of static FRs from other cans in their possession.
I am not aware of any study that demonstrated that people interested into audio equipment further than the average consumer have particular hearing abilities. But perhaps there are ?
What on earth are you rambling on about?, where did I say that "people interested into audio equipment further than the average consumer have particular hearing abilities"? I'm talking about people that have known genuine experience with headphones and a skill for critical listening, there is a difference, not everyone has the same ability to judge or ability to verbally convoy what they are hearing, so many people fail on this alone.
Also there are plenty of headphones out there that have a general consensus of being good or of poor quality, some of the stuff you spout honestly, utter nonsense.
If adaptive EQ functions as advertised, it's hard to say what is what. It's supposed to normalize the listening experience across different ear anatomies, but those different anatomies will be used to getting different amounts of certain frequencies based on their assortment of static FRs from other cans in their possession.
Adaptive EQ is not in use if ANC is not in use. With Airpods Pro, assume that MAX behaves with same logic?
Airpods Pro sounds better with ANC off. Imo.
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