[doctorjazz]

I still listen to them every night...that's the problem here on Head Fi often, myself included, "new toy syndrome" makes for very strong first impressions, and sometimes it takes months to really get to know some gear. And, if you read what I wrote, it's not that I don't like them...couldn't listen to them every night if they were bad to listen to. But, I am having issues with top end roll off, and I just wonder if, at what they cost, I might have done better. Could just be me and my set...

 

[zenpunk]

I have been trying very hard to enjoy mine but I just can't. They do indeed lack air up in the treble and sounds stuffy and lacking clarity/transparency, IMO .
They sound OK but switching to the DUNU 2000J is like a breath of fresh air.
I have been thinking about sending them back to have them checked but not too sure if it is worth it. 

 

[doctorjazz]

I have been trying very hard to enjoy mine but I just can't. They do indeed lack air up in the treble and sounds stuffy and lacking clarity/transparency, IMO .
They sound OK but switching to the DUNU 2000J is like a breath of fresh air.
I have been thinking about sending them back to have them checked but not too sure if it is worth it. 

Also considering getting in touch with the folks in the Manhattan office...it's not like something jumps out that is wrong (it did a few times, with channel imbalance happening on mine, but they corrected that). It's just, as you say, they haven't been able to grab me the way I'd expect. I could be spoiled by the HE-1000, which is great sounding (and, to be fair, does list for about 3 times as much), but I enjoy listening to the Phonak PFE-232 more, at least the last time I used them. They are inoffensive, but lack that high end and don't grab as they should, I think...

 

[zenpunk]

I have very fond memories of the 232. I wish I didn't sell it. Fantastic imaging.

 

[mark_h]

Well I've ordered a pair but i've always been underwhelmed with customs, just don't think they're as mind blowing as they're made out to be, always a bit of the emperor's new clothes about them. Never found one that convincingly trounces the ER4S or equals a good Stax setup like some reviewers claim...'You live and learn' does not seem to apply with headphones?

 

[doctorjazz]

It's my first time venturing into the world of customs...logically, you'd expect having it custom built for you seems like it would make all the difference in SQ, but, like in many things, the devil is in the details. Again, it's not that they are objectionable, bad sounding, hard to tolerate, nothing like that. And, maybe something is wrong, I probably should contact acs again (sent them back at least 3 times already). But, they are smooth, unobjectionable, actually pretty good to fall asleep with in its way, but I expected more (and, expected high frequencies).

 

[Takeanidea]

I eq all my phones now. The better the phone the better it responds to eqing. I don't see any shame in it, the studios all eq everything. There is such a thing outthere xcalled the harman response curve which is worth doing some research on and seeing whether this sound signature is to your liking. Any iem or full size should respond to it. It should sort out any problems with rolled off treble too much mid too much bass etc. Worth a try and can always be tailored to your personal taste once you'vegot the hang of it
Trev

 

[Tony1110]

I have been trying very hard to enjoy mine but I just can't. They do indeed lack air up in the treble and sounds stuffy and lacking clarity/transparency, IMO .
They sound OK but switching to the DUNU 2000J is like a breath of fresh air.
I have been thinking about sending them back to have them checked but not too sure if it is worth it. 

They're not exactly a treblehead IEM and I sometimes find myself wanting a more open and airy sound...then I'll listen to something else and find myself thinking that it sounds thin and anemic by comparison. I suppose a lot of it is down to the music you feed them.

 

[mark_h]

Looking forward to listening to them, opinion seems polarised. Always found the treble drivers are the last to open up and settle in.

 

[doctorjazz]

That would be great!

 

[Tony1110]

Looking forward to listening to them, opinion seems polarised. Always found the treble drivers are the last to open up and settle in.

What made you go for the Encore? I'm not sure I'd buy them based on some of the comments in this thread.

 

[Cagin]

What made you go for the Encore? I'm not sure I'd buy them based on some of the comments in this thread.

Said the same thing to Andy Shiach at CanJam London

 

[Tony1110]

Said the same thing to Andy Shiach at CanJam London

And how did Andy Shiach, whoever he might be, respond to that?

 

[mark_h]

What made you go for the Encore? I'm not sure I'd buy them based on some of the comments in this thread.

Because I owned the T1 and they were excellent for all but the bass, better than the UE11 in the mid and top end, can't see there being such a huge difference in the voicing. There are also comments in this thread saying they are exceptional...I'm looking forward to finding out! The JH Audio cable termination at the monitor end is a cheap option so I passed on them.

 

[doctorjazz]

What made you go for the Encore? I'm not sure I'd buy them based on some of the comments in this thread.

Because I owned the T1 and they were excellent for all but the bass, better than the UE11 in the mid and top end, can't see there being such a huge difference in the voicing. There are also comments in this thread saying they are exceptional...I'm looking forward to finding out! The JH Audio cable termination at the monitor end is a cheap option so I passed on them.

Looking forward to your impressions as well. Had the T1 as well, also felt they were missing bass, now I'm missing the top (bass is good), but maybe it'll just take more time...