[holsen]

Here are a few details 7Hz new DD. No name yet but will be released shortly after the new Dioko planar. It will be coming out under a new sub-brand to 7Hz.
It's a 10mm Dynamic and while the rendered photos show 2 Pin it will also be MMCX. Stainless Steel face plates on polycarbonate shells. Black will be the primary color but they will make 4 color variations Proposed is Red, Black, White and a kind of turquoise blue.

Do you guys want to give some feedback on your preferences? Cast your vote here for a little fun and who knows, your wish may be granted!

Vote: https://howard_olsen.formaloo.net/7hzdd

Results: https://live.formaloo.net/xAKHJ8uLwxKtbuN/?mode=single

I've never used this form / poll software even though I own it, I hope this fun little experiment works.

 

[jsmiller58]

Here are a few details 7Hz new DD. No name yet but will be released shortly after the new Dioko planar. It will be coming out under a new sub-brand to 7Hz.
It's a 10mm Dynamic and while the rendered photos show 2 Pin it will also be MMCX. Stainless Steel face plates on polycarbonate shells. Black will be the primary color but they will make 4 color variations Proposed is Red, Black, White and a kind of turquoise blue.

Do you guys want to give some feedback on your preferences? Cast your vote here for a little fun and who knows, your wish may be granted!

Vote: https://howard_olsen.formaloo.net/7hzdd

Results: https://live.formaloo.net/xAKHJ8uLwxKtbuN/?mode=single

I've never used this form / poll software even though I own it, I hope this fun little experiment works.

In my opinion, and my opinion only, I am disappointed they are sticking with MMCX. I don‘t say this due to any hate for MMCX, but because the overwhelming number of IEMs I have are two pin, and thus so are my cables.

That said, honestly other than slight inconvenience to me, this doesn’t matter in the slightest. I don’t pick IEMs based on connectors, rather based on sound. Just turns out most of the IEMs I like have 2 pin connectors, which is convenient.

 

[samandhi]

Yup, I for one will have a lot more cables with 2-pin connectors, I think I only have 4 with MMCX and I have far more IEM's with 2-pin as well.

It may reduce the costs as well, every little bit helps...but, what's up with that nickname "Dioko"?

"7Hz Timeless V2 called Dioko"
https://forum.hifiguides.com/t/bad-guy-good-audio-rankings-and-stuff-under-construction/16287/7884

dioko
Phonetic Spelling
dee-o'-ko
Definition
1. to make to run or flee, put to flight, drive away
2. to run swiftly in order to catch a person or thing, to run after
to press on: figuratively of one who in a race runs swiftly to reach the goal
to pursue (in a hostile manner)
3. in any way whatever to harass, trouble, molest one
to persecute
to be mistreated, suffer persecution on account of something
4. without the idea of hostility, to run after, follow after: someone
5. metaph., to pursue
to seek after eagerly, earnestly endeavour to acquire
https://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/greek/nas/dioko.html

I wonder which definition 7hz was hoping we'd fathom? Perhaps there is another meaning they think of when they say "dioko"?

Διώκω, maybe they meant the Ancient Greek Δίω, which among others means escaping, "departing", moving away.
I doubt they will be named like that, though. There are other words to express this.

Maybe they are sticking with thier "poop" theme (7Hz being the brown note and all). To run as in.... well you can guess where my dimented brain is headed with this one?!

In my opinion, and my opinion only, I am disappointed they are sticking with MMCX. I don‘t say this due to any hate for MMCX, but because the overwhelming number of IEMs I have are two pin, and thus so are my cables.

That said, honestly other than slight inconvenience to me, this doesn’t matter in the slightest. I don’t pick IEMs based on connectors, rather based on sound. Just turns out most of the IEMs I like have 2 pin connectors, which is convenient.

Same here, though just the opposite. I now have 2 IEMs that have 2 pin connectors (maybe a third if I go with the P1 Max or the Hook-X), where the majority of IEMs I have are MMCX. I also have no real preference in connection type. I simply look for what sounds best to me.

 

[hmscott]

In my opinion, and my opinion only, I am disappointed they are sticking with MMCX. I don‘t say this due to any hate for MMCX, but because the overwhelming number of IEMs I have are two pin, and thus so are my cables.

That said, honestly other than slight inconvenience to me, this doesn’t matter in the slightest. I don’t pick IEMs based on connectors, rather based on sound. Just turns out most of the IEMs I like have 2 pin connectors, which is convenient

MMCX connectors can be tough for some people to work with, at least that is what I have seen over time (about 2 years). To remove many pull from the cable side of the MMCX connector - which a good way to break the MMCX connector.

It is easier to wedge a nail between the connector and the IEM, to pop apart the MMCX connector - and safer for the connector.

Unless you can find a specialized tool to pop the MMCX connector out of the IEM:
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/fin...echanger-for-stubborn-mmcx-connectors.946294/
https://www.amazon.com/Disconnection-Accessories-Disconnect-Connectors-Pull-Out/dp/B098Q9CJ76
https://www.mtmtaudio.com/products/final-audio-mmcx-assist-for-in-ear-monitor-iem-earphone

For me the 2-pin connector isn't any easier to work with, I need to focus to get those tiny pins lined up and plugged into the tiny holes.

Here are a few details 7Hz new DD. No name yet but will be released shortly after the new Dioko planar. It will be coming out under a new sub-brand to 7Hz.
It's a 10mm Dynamic and while the rendered photos show 2 Pin it will also be MMCX. Stainless Steel face plates on polycarbonate shells. Black will be the primary color but they will make 4 color variations Proposed is Red, Black, White and a kind of turquoise blue.

Do you guys want to give some feedback on your preferences? Cast your vote here for a little fun and who knows, your wish may be granted!

Vote: https://howard_olsen.formaloo.net/7hzdd

Results: https://live.formaloo.net/xAKHJ8uLwxKtbuN/?mode=single

I've never used this form / poll software even though I own it, I hope this fun little experiment works.

@holsen - Turquoise Blue and Red are tied up 4 to 4 right now

I'm not a big fan of the new DD IEM shape, nor coloring only the base and leaving the "cover plate" silver.

I do like the shape of the new "Red" Timeless V2, it reminds me of "Guinan's Hat" as worn in Star Trek TNG:



Update: I've been informed, and read further back in this thread, that 7hz/sellers are including an MMCX removal tool in their shipments of the Timeless, but I didn't get one included in my shipment, so I am asking for one to be sent to me in my next order delivery from Hifigo.com - and I've heard that if the tool doesn't seem to be working for you, to try rolling it over (flip it over) so that the grip of the tool fits the problem.

 

[hmscott]

Maybe they are sticking with thier "poop" theme (7Hz being the brown note and all). To run as in.... well you can guess where my demented brain is headed with this one?!

Same here, though just the opposite. I now have 2 IEMs that have 2 pin connectors (maybe a third if I go with the P1 Max or the Hook-X), where the majority of IEMs I have are MMCX. I also have no real preference in connection type. I simply look for what sounds best to me.

I prefer to think of 7hz as being from the "Theta Wave" frequency effect range of 3.5-7.5 Hz:

"Theta activity has a frequency of 3.5 to 7.5 Hz and is classed as “slow” activity. It is seen in connection with creativity, intuition, daydreaming, and fantasizing and is a repository for memories, emotions, sensations. Theta waves are strong during internal focus, meditation, prayer, and spiritual awareness."

Yup, it depends on what IEM's we already have as to which connector we might prefer.

Yup, I for one will have a lot more cables with 2-pin connectors, I think I only have 4 with MMCX and I have far more IEM's with 2-pin as well.

It may reduce the costs as well, every little bit helps...but, what's up with that nickname "Dioko"?

"7Hz Timeless V2 called Dioko"
https://forum.hifiguides.com/t/bad-guy-good-audio-rankings-and-stuff-under-construction/16287/7884

dioko
Phonetic Spelling
dee-o'-ko
Definition
1. to make to run or flee, put to flight, drive away
2. to run swiftly in order to catch a person or thing, to run after
to press on: figuratively of one who in a race runs swiftly to reach the goal
to pursue (in a hostile manner)
3. in any way whatever to harass, trouble, molest one
to persecute
to be mistreated, suffer persecution on account of something
4. without the idea of hostility, to run after, follow after: someone
5. metaph., to pursue
to seek after eagerly, earnestly endeavour to acquire
https://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/greek/nas/dioko.html

I wonder which definition 7hz was hoping we'd fathom? Perhaps there is another meaning they think of when they say "dioko"?

Διώκω, maybe they meant the Ancient Greek Δίω, which among others means escaping, "departing", moving away.
I doubt they will be named like that, though. There are other words to express this.

I was leaning toward: "επιδιώκω" or "επιδίωξη"

"5. metaphor, to pursue,
to seek after eagerly, earnestly endeavour to acquire"

As in, "The Pursuit of Audio ...".

 

[quicklytoo4]

In my opinion, and my opinion only, I am disappointed they are sticking with MMCX. I don‘t say this due to any hate for MMCX, but because the overwhelming number of IEMs I have are two pin, and thus so are my cables.

That said, honestly other than slight inconvenience to me, this doesn’t matter in the slightest. I don’t pick IEMs based on connectors, rather based on sound. Just turns out most of the IEMs I like have 2 pin connectors, which is convenient.

The Timeless V2 is going to be 2pin

 

[quicklytoo4]

anyone else excited for Timeless V2? hoping it's worth replacing my backup Timeless with

 

[Q Mass]

Here are a few details 7Hz new DD. No name yet but will be released shortly after the new Dioko planar. It will be coming out under a new sub-brand to 7Hz.
It's a 10mm Dynamic and while the rendered photos show 2 Pin it will also be MMCX. Stainless Steel face plates on polycarbonate shells. Black will be the primary color but they will make 4 color variations Proposed is Red, Black, White and a kind of turquoise blue.

Do you guys want to give some feedback on your preferences? Cast your vote here for a little fun and who knows, your wish may be granted!

Vote: https://howard_olsen.formaloo.net/7hzdd

Results: https://live.formaloo.net/xAKHJ8uLwxKtbuN/?mode=single

I've never used this form / poll software even though I own it, I hope this fun little experiment works.

HA! I think I'm the only person to vote for black so far!
Well, at least my second choice or red has plenty of support so far.
I do like the look of this design, and wish it was for the Timeless 2 (I confess I have little interest in yet another dynamic driver iem myself).
I definitely don't hate the circular design of the Timeless/2, but see it as somewhat useless if the driver isn't occupying and exploiting the extra surface area it provides.
As far as connectors goes, I too am in the neutral camp as I've had far more problems with 2-pin than mmcx, but that may be because I've had WAY more 2-pin iems than mmcx, dunno.

 

[holsen]

The Timeless V2 is going to be 2pin

Nope, I'm told it'll be MMCX. Who know I may be surprised. They did say that they may make a "few" 2 Pin

 

[samandhi]

MMCX connectors can be tough for some people to work with, at least that is what I have seen over time (about 2 years). To remove many pull from the cable side of the MMCX connector - which a good way to break the MMCX connector.

It is easier to wedge a nail between the connector and the IEM, to pop apart the MMCX connector - and safer for the connector.

Unless you can find a specialized tool to pop the MMCX connector out of the IEM:
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/fin...echanger-for-stubborn-mmcx-connectors.946294/
https://www.amazon.com/Disconnection-Accessories-Disconnect-Connectors-Pull-Out/dp/B098Q9CJ76
https://www.mtmtaudio.com/products/final-audio-mmcx-assist-for-in-ear-monitor-iem-earphone

For me the 2-pin connector isn't any easier to work with, I need to focus to get those tiny pins lined up and plugged into the tiny holes.

@holsen - Turquoise Blue and Red are tied up 4 to 4 right now

I'm not a big fan of the new DD shape, nor coloring only the base and leaving the "cover plate" silver.

I do like the shape of the new "Red" Timeless V2, it reminds me of "Guinan's Hat" as worn in Star Trek TNG:

Don't forget that the Timeless actually come with this MMCX removal tool, though it's ironic because you can't use it on the Timeless.

 

[yaps66]

Don't forget that the Timeless actually come with this MMCX removal tool, though it's ironic because you can't use it on the Timeless.

Yes! I did not! It has worked really well for my other MMCX iems though! That deserves some praise I suppose!

 

[samandhi]

Yes! I did not! It has worked really well for my other MMCX iems though! That deserves some praise I suppose!

Same here. It works great for all of my MMCX except the device it was intended for... LOL

Edit: Also IIRC the OG (version 1) Timeless did not come with this tool.

 

[logiatype]

Don't forget that the Timeless actually come with this MMCX removal tool, though it's ironic because you can't use it on the Timeless.

Yes! I did not! It has worked really well for my other MMCX iems though! That deserves some praise I suppose!

Same here. It works great for all of my MMCX except the device it was intended for... LOL

Edit: Also IIRC the OG (version 1) Timeless did not come with this tool.

Really? I used it quite often on mine. You have to use it with:
1. nozzle facing you
2. the flat part of the tool facing down.

No longer have it or would have taken a picture.

 

[yaps66]

Really? I used it quite often on mine. You have to use it with:
1. nozzle facing you
2. the flat part of the tool facing down.

No longer have it or would have taken a picture.

Haha! We obviously lacked your vision!

 

[hmscott]

Don't forget that the Timeless actually come with this MMCX removal tool, though it's ironic because you can't use it on the Timeless.

Thank you for alerting me.

That is a considerate addition by 7hz to send along an MMXC removal tool with their shipments of IEMs with MMCX cables. It is too bad that I didn't get one included with my shipment. I've emailed Hifigo.com and asked them to send me one with my next order.

Pinching that gap where the MMCX removal tool goes using my fingers does work, but it isn't always consistent, varying according to the length of my fingernails and the angle of the applied pressure.

It is very smart of 7hz/Sellers to include the MMCX removal tool to reduce their RMA numbers from broken MMCX connectors.

I didn't keep up in this thread after returning my Tour 7hz Timeless, I'll go back and read up on what I missed asap.

I'm very happy most of you received the MMCX removal tool with your 7hz MMCX IEM, as that is the easiest and safest consistent method for reducing the stress on the MMCX connector disconnect.