[jamweiser]

I've had the Timeless for only a month, and received the Dioko on Friday. Still comparing the two, but I have noticed when listening to the Dioko, I'm turning the volume up more than the Timeless. I did swap cable with a 4.4mm balanced cable, and use Low gain on my dx160

 

[samandhi]

I've had the Timeless for only a month, and received the Dioko on Friday. Still comparing the two, but I have noticed when listening to the Dioko, I'm turning the volume up more than the Timeless. I did swap cable with a 4.4mm balanced cable, and use Low gain on my dx160

Is it because you are compensating for the perceived lesser quantity of bass, or because they are harder to drive?

 

[voicemaster]

Is it because you are compensating for the perceived lesser quantity of bass, or because they are harder to drive?

Happened to me too. It could be both of having lesser bass and a little bit harder to drive.

 

[samandhi]

Happened to me too. It could be both of having lesser bass and a little bit harder to drive.

So would you call these bass-light, or simply more neutral? And what is everyone trying to drive them on?

 

[jamweiser]

Is it because you are compensating for the perceived lesser quantity of bass, or because they are harder to drive?

To my ears, It lacks the synergy of the Timeless. Its not bad overall, guess one can say it's more neutral compared to the Timeless. With the timeless, the volume is at 45. On the dioko the volume is at 50, so maybe they require more juice

 

[samandhi]

To my ears, It lacks the synergy of the Timeless. Its not bad overall, guess one can say it's more neutral compared to the Timeless. With the timeless, the volume is at 45. On the dioko the volume is at 50, so maybe they require more juice

NP, was just curious fellow NE Indiana(ian)(or)(ish) Hoosier.... It would probably require equipment to volume match to get that question answered really. I wonder if this still holds true with a different cable? Maybe more impedance? Again, just curious.

 

[jamweiser]

NP, was just curious fellow NE Indiana(ian)(or)(ish) Hoosier.... It would probably require equipment to volume match to get that question answered really. I wonder if this still holds true with a different cable? Maybe more impedance? Again, just curious.

That's beyond my hobbyist knowledge.... I prefer listening and relaxing, or working.....

This side of the state doesn't offer as much fun as the NW corner does. But the beauty is, there's many destinations only a few hours drive from here.

 

[samandhi]

That's beyond my hobbyist knowledge.... I prefer listening and relaxing, or working.....

This side of the state doesn't offer as much fun as the NW corner does. But the beauty is, there's many destinations only a few hours drive from here.

Oh I was only suggesting that if you had another 2 pin cable you might see if the issue persists, not to get some volume measuring equipment. Lol

Yeah, being 20 minutes from Michigan, and 10 from Ohio does leave a lot of possibilities, especially on a motorcycle. Lots of gorgeous rides to be had here IMO.

 

[jmwant]

Gizaudio reviews the Dioko.

 

[saldsald]

The Dioko is in general pretty nice for the price but the tone is a little off (maybe 20%) and I think it is best to experiement with different filters for yourself. After experimenting with all the filters I have I just find the treble overly dampened and I find occasional clipping (like you hear a flat top end). When you compare to other more "correctly" tuned IEMs the offset tone is very obvious but fine when there is no comparison. Stage is good for the price but is partially a result of the tuning.Also it has some great treble clarity due to the less pronounced mids and bass.

 

[jmwant]

The Dioko is in general pretty nice for the price but the tone is a little off (maybe 20%) and I think it is best to experiement with different filters for yourself. After experimenting with all the filters I have I just find the treble overly dampened and I find occasional clipping (like you hear a flat top end). When you compare to other more "correctly" tuned IEMs the offset tone is very obvious but fine when there is no comparison. Stage is good for the price but is partially a result of the tuning.

Tone is a little off? Like is it thin sounding? Regarding the treble, I think it might be the planar characteristic.

 

[saldsald]

Tone is a little off? Like is it thin sounding? Regarding the treble, I think it might be the planar characteristic.

Not especially thin but it sounds like there is something missing in the mids. If you remove the filters that treble characteristics would be gone so it's not about it being planar.

 

[jamweiser]

Oh I was only suggesting that if you had another 2 pin cable you might see if the issue persists, not to get some volume measuring equipment. Lol

Swapped the kbear copper cable for a kbear silver cable. Synergy still lacks, but it's listenable. Tempted to pickup the hook-x.

Damn this hobby

 

[samandhi]

Swapped the kbear copper cable for a kbear silver cable. Synergy still lacks, but it's listenable. Tempted to pickup the hook-x.

Damn this hobby

IKR? I have considered the Hook-X also.

 

[ian91]

Not especially thin but it sounds like there is something missing in the mids. If you remove the filters that treble characteristics would be gone so it's not about it being planar.

Maybe the pinna gain is less than what you're used to? It places the mids further back which you could be interpreting as a thin quality. Tonally the Dioko is definitely bright and the tight (planar) subbass focus with neutral midbass does make low mids thinner too. It's an exceptionally clear midrange that some might feel is uninspiring or lifeless.

For my library of primarily string instruments and vocals this clarity is unmatched and something I find enjoyable but I can already see how this tuning doesn't work with some genres and comes off very 'plain'.

My initial feeling, that the Dioko needs a greater midbass emphasis/linear slope, remains the same. Even with this boost I think the midrange clarity wouldn't be lost largely because of the speed and unobtrusive characteristics of planar bass.