5g ipod vs x5

[germanjulian]

I went to work today with my G5 and sound great, works great too.
An in regards to EQ and sound enhancements.. I am against it. always have been always will be

and the G5 does not scratch... you need to get theinvisibleshield.com . It does work.

But does anyone live around Frankfurt germany with an X5.. I want to compare!

and the reason why I got the G5 over X5:
- cheaper
- exellent build quality and returns/issues get resolved very quickly
- sounds the same.. better? worse? who knows
- EQ is not for me
- The few ogg songs I have I can convert to mp3. most of my other stuff is mpc or ape
- It looks just as good/better as the X5
- Its smaller (by a bit I agree)
- Support= Standard mp3 player etc. Everyone has it, everyone fiddles with it breaks it
- Content, ITunes, Podcasts etc.
- Video playback and very good Photo support (but I cant see myself watching a movie while 10 people are looking over my shoulder on the train)

uhh decisions .. either way mate, you will be happy with either of them.

 

[bangraman]

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Originally Posted by jnev ok, i've more or less decided on the 60gb x5. i talked to a friend of mine that has a 20gb x5, and he said that he can sync his x5 with itunes using badapple, and thats pretty much the major reason why i was considering the ipod. to make this harder though, i heard something about a open-source neuros player coming out sometime soon. anybody know anything about it?

Sync is something of a loaded word. All you can do with Badapple is dump the entire iTunes store (provided you've ripped in MP3) onto the X5. There is no playlist sync, etc. I fail to see what's different about this from just dragging your iTunes music folder onto the X5. The hype it's generated among the non-iPod community indicates very clearly that people just skim over what it does and get excited, not actually use it. Those who use it with a non-iPod and get excited clearly haven't used iTunes with an iPod.


On the iPod, you can use programs like Yamipod to allow drag & drop onto the iPod. Yamipod is a single executable file which you stick on the iPod and run it directly off the iPod. This gives you a drag & drop window, as well as more sophisticated organisation functions. So you get the benefits of both drag & drop and iTunes-based loading.

 

[jnev]

that's what i meant. sometimes it's just nice to be able to sync my the library instead of search in a browser window for the one album i just added out of hundreds.

 

[The D]

"exellent build quality and returns/issues get resolved very quickly"
How does the thing have exellent build quality if it gets tons of scratches?

"EQ is not for me"
the lack of features is not a plus.

"Podcasts etc." you do know that "podcast" is just a name and you do not need an ipod to play them?

 

[germanjulian]

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Originally Posted by The D "excellent build quality and returns/issues get resolved very quickly" How does the thing have excellent build quality if it gets tons of scratches?

I don’t see how scratches have to do anything with build quality. Its like saying these headphones are bad because they don’t look good even though they sound amazing. And yes it does scratch easily.. but just look at it and you know why, cause it was made to look good for consumer who*es and girls

. However it has good build quality. I can imagine dropping it and it wont split open etc. Feel strong and solid. (Obviously its hard to test these things but some mp3 players feel "cheap")

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Originally Posted by The D "EQ is not for me" the lack of features is not a plus.

and I wasn’t trying to sell it to somebody! If you would read what I said "and the reason why I got the G5 over X5:...". I did not say why YOU should get an apple or that somebody should not use EQ. If I would use EQ I would have not even considered the G5.

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Originally Posted by The D " "Podcasts etc." you do know that "podcast" is just a name and you do not need an ipod to play them?

yes I do know! When I talk about technical issues in mp3 players, discuss headphones, soundcards etc. its properly safe to assume I heard about podcasts... I also said: "- Content, ITunes, Podcasts etc."
which means its easy to transfer songs, use the itunes library.. use Itunes to subscribe to podcasts so new episode get transferred automatically to my G5. Anyone who uses ITunes and has an apple producte appreciates the ease of use of ITunes and the good feature set it has. And yes.. I do use Foobar2000 to play my music on my computer etc. ITunes is for Ipods and its better then any other mp3 player software out there (as far as I have seen).

Anyway: jnev comon stop fiddling around test both players or buy the X5 already

, I wanna hear your opinion.

Oh I was listening to Beth Orthon and Prayer for cleansing (death/hardcore progressive metal) and I cant complain about bass or sound quality. its amazing. jnev get some headphones, Shure e4c are a good bet. ITS worth it

 

[bangraman]

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Originally Posted by The D "exellent build quality and returns/issues get resolved very quickly" How does the thing have exellent build quality if it gets tons of scratches?

Polycarbonate is scratchable. However it is actually more robust than the thin aluminium sheet that forms the shell of the X5.

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"EQ is not for me" the lack of features is not a plus.

True, but sound quality is not dependent on EQ. The more EQ you use, the more you will realise this. EQ has to be VERY good before it stops affecting quality... and not even the fabled Karma has the ability.

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"Podcasts etc." you do know that "podcast" is just a name and you do not need an ipod to play them?

No, but how many players do you know which will sync and update them automatically out of the box, and resume exactly where you left off on every podcast? Use it before you comment. The devil is always in the details... And Cowon simply isn't as good at it.

 

[The D]

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Originally Posted by bangraman Polycarbonate is scratchable. However it is actually more robust than the thin aluminium sheet that forms the shell of the X5.

How is that?
Polycarbonate is very weak, hell I broke a Xbox game in half just by lifting it out of its case, If the disk was made out aluminium I am sure it would not have broken.


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Originally Posted by bangraman True, but sound quality is not dependent on EQ. The more EQ you use, the more you will realise this. EQ has to be VERY good before it stops affecting quality... and not even the fabled Karma has the ability.

EQ is very useful if you have headphones like the ksc75, no matter what the people here on Head-Fi say, these things are near unlistenable with out alot of EQ.


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Originally Posted by bangraman No, but how many players do you know which will sync and update them automatically out of the box, and resume exactly where you left off on every podcast? Use it before you comment. The devil is always in the details... And Cowon simply isn't as good at it.

What is with people crying about drag and droping one file?

The X5 can bookmark any audio file for play back at the point you bookmarked it at.

 

[CookieFactory]

Does anyone know the output level of the 5G Ipod's headphone out?

 

[germanjulian]

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Originally Posted by The D How is that? Polycarbonate is very weak, hell I broke a Xbox game in half just by lifting it out of its case, If the disk was made out aluminium I am sure it would not have broken.

http://www.boedeker.com/polyc_p.htm
http://www.sdplastics.com/polycarb.html

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Originally Posted by The D EQ is very useful if you have headphones like the ksc75, no matter what the people here on Head-Fi say, these things are near unlistenable with out alot of EQ.

you get used to EQ, you get used to the true sound of music without EQ. But cheap headphones like the ksc75 I would not get used to. Seen those over 5000 dollar amps without bass and trebel adjustment? There is a reason why they dont have it. Oh and by the way: http://www6.head-fi.org

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Originally Posted by The D What is with people crying about drag and droping one file? The X5 can bookmark any audio file for play back at the point you bookmarked it at.

and I do the same with ITunes, drag and drop a folder into it?
And yes most mp3 player can bookmark mp3 files now, except the Ipod if its a normal mp3. but is it a feature I really really need?

Stop flaming

 

[The D]

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Originally Posted by germanjulian http://www.boedeker.com/polyc_p.htm http://www.sdplastics.com/polycarb.html

So what?
Polycarbonate is VERY WEAK against scratches, at least consumer grade stuff is, and that is build quality.

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Originally Posted by germanjulian you get used to EQ, you get used to the true sound of music without EQ. But cheap headphones like the ksc75 I would not get used to. Seen those over 5000 dollar amps without bass and trebel adjustment? There is a reason why they dont have it.

The ksc75 are good value portable headphones, alot of people on Head-Fi use them, I need to use an EQ with them to make them sound listenable ( vs my AD700)


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Originally Posted by germanjulian and I do the same with ITunes, drag and drop a folder into it? And yes most mp3 player can bookmark mp3 files now, except the Ipod if its a normal mp3. but is it a feature I really really need?

I was responding to bangraman, he said that the ipod could resume podcasts and he implied that the X5 could not, I corrected him.

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Originally Posted by germanjulian Stop flaming

I was not flaming.

What is with how every time anyone says anything bad about the ipod tons of fanboys jump in and start acting like they have sand in there .....?

 

[iamdone]

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Originally Posted by germanjulian and I do the same with ITunes, drag and drop a folder into it? And yes most mp3 player can bookmark mp3 files now, except the Ipod if its a normal mp3. but is it a feature I really really need?

iTunes gives you the option to set bookmarks for regular mp3s. I haven't seen if it actually transfers to the ipod but I'd image it would. It also let's you select tracks to skip when using shuffle.

 

[germanjulian]

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Originally Posted by The D So what? Polycarbonate is VERY WEAK against scratches, at least consumer grade stuff is, and that is build quality.

and you know the difference between consumer grade stuff and "normal" polycarbonate? Is there such a thing? And build quality is not defined into one aspect like it "scratches". I think build quality has to do with the components used, the strength, their lifetime etc. As far as I know Quality Testing is one big thing out there in the world.
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Originally Posted by The D The ksc75 are good value portable headphones, alot of people on Head-Fi use them, I need to use an EQ with them to make them sound listenable ( vs my AD700)

... good.

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Originally Posted by The D What is with how every time anyone says anything bad about the ipod tons of fanboys jump in and start acting like they have sand in there .....?

I hate apple...... oh god I do so much. But their mp3 player is one of the top 3 out there and its hard not to say no. I feel ashamed. But I am no fanboy.
You sound like an apple hater though.

 

[The D]

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Originally Posted by germanjulian and you know the difference between consumer grade stuff and "normal" polycarbonate? Is there such a thing? And build quality is not defined into one aspect like it "scratches". I think build quality has to do with the components used, the strength, their lifetime etc. As far as I know Quality Testing is one big thing out there in the world.

I meant that the stuff they use on the ipod and the like, is not as good as bullet glass is made of ect.
They fact that it scratches so easily is a big minus as far as build quality is concerned.


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Originally Posted by germanjulian I hate apple ...... oh god I do so much. But their mp3 player is one of the top 3 out there and its hard not to say no. I feel ashamed. But I am no fanboy. You sound like an apple hater though.

How am I an "apple hater"?
You are the one who just said that you "hate apple"

I am just stating some facts, they only hater here is you!

 

[bangraman]

In case you didn't notice, for your benefit I did bold areas of my previous post for emphasis. It does help to have a clue before you start arguing about things.

 

[jnev]

haha wow, i figured this psot was over with and suddenly i come back and it's on its third page! wow lol.

yah i'm probably gonna still get the 60gb x5, probably next week or so. every place is out of stock atm.