[Ike1985]

Ref8 and plussound exo copper. I still have a ea thor silver ii on the way back to ea for re termination.
I see.

 
Remember U12 is a dark warm IEM with peculiar tuning that makes it difficult to find a good source pairing.  Make sure you have your seal taken care of first and that you have a very good seal and go from there.

 

[ericr]

I would agree. I would comment on his Sony dap but I don't know anything about it. All I can tell him is that the A/U12 needs a Totl amp. I use a CDM (mojo -> cdm) others are using dx200, etc. the difference I got with CDM is literally night and day, scroll back for my thoughts on that.

What do you consider a TOTL amp?

Or maybe better, which amps have you used with the A12/U12, which of them did you like / not like, and which of them do you consider TOTL?

 

[Ike1985]

What do you consider a TOTL amp?

Or maybe better, which amps have you used with the A12/U12, which of them did you like / not like, and which of them do you consider TOTL?

 
Bear in mind I don't do desktop and I'm only interested in portable audio.  If It'll fit in my bag I'm down.  I've remember hearing CDM, v5, HA2, Headamp Pico, Mojo of course and PHA3. I'm sure there's others I've heard I've forgotten.   TOTL to me in a portable amp is transparency, detail, big stage and dynamism.  A big sound, big in all directions, increased air between the instruments resulting in more separation and a big spacious stage.  A good amp makes everything more impactful, bass, treble, vocals, etc.  One of the DIY threads (I'll have to check later) has a tin amp a guy made that's supposedly class A.  Would love to hear this but kinda hard to demo something you can't get.  Nothing sounded as good as the CDM with A12 to me.  Which is why I push it so hard and why I was frustrated for so long with the dark veiled highend-less and slow sound I was getting from my A12s until the CDM whipped them into shape.  Now the CDM is warm and A12 is warm so you would think that'd be too much warmth but I can't explain why it isn't as the A12 is already too warm for me.  It's just an awesome combo, you'll have to hear it yourself. 

 

[BriarSnob]

So as a proud new owner of a U12 purchased from a fellow Head-fi'er, I had a chance to critically listen to this IEM on a couple flights yesterday from DC to SFO.  Over the better part of six hours, I heard violins, clarinets, and other instruments that I had not heard on my previous (read lower quality) IEM.  Wow is all I can say.  
 
Next comes the DAP and cables.

 

[PinkyPowers]

So as a proud new owner of a U12 purchased from a fellow Head-fi'er, I had a chance to critically listen to this IEM on a couple flights yesterday from DC to SFO.  Over the better part of six hours, I heard violins, clarinets, and other instruments that I had not heard on my previous (read lower quality) IEM.  Wow is all I can say.  

Next comes the DAP and cables.

Awesome! Glad you're liking them.

I recommend the Opus#1 and the ALO Reference 8 if you don't want to spend too much money and still achieve perfection.

 

[subguy812]

  So as a proud new owner of a U12 purchased from a fellow Head-fi'er, I had a chance to critically listen to this IEM on a couple flights yesterday from DC to SFO.  Over the better part of six hours, I heard violins, clarinets, and other instruments that I had not heard on my previous (read lower quality) IEM.  Wow is all I can say.  
 
Next comes the DAP and cables.

Welcome...enjoy. It is a fantastic IEM. I have the Opus #2 but I have heard great things about the Opus #1 to echo the recommendation from Pinky.

 

[tangents]

Good idea! I got a bag of 5mm x 2mm o-rings from Amazon — two rings per earpiece with Spiral Dots

 

Sorry, it is not.

 

[wingnuts21]

  Good idea! I got a bag of 5mm x 2mm o-rings from Amazon — two rings per earpiece with Spiral Dots

 

i use spacers for my 64 audio when using spiral dots , but i find the spiral dots  get left behind in my ears 

 

[tim0chan]

i use spacers for my 64 audio when using spiral dots , but i find the spiral dots  get left behind in my ears 

The secret it to have the spacers inside the tips as well

 

[chaiyuta]

tangents : The appropriate thickness should not over 3 mm. 2.0 - 2.5 mm is good enough. It depends on your own ear-shape.  If it overs, ear tips are prone to slip out of nozzles. This is my recommendation.

 

[wingnuts21]

thanks chaps  ill try that 

 

[hung031086]

Jist received plussound cable. I asked them to change from mmcx to 2 pin. But when I received it, it's still. Now have to ship back to them . Well tomorrow i will get a ref8 cable. Hope it's not mmcx lolz.

 

[pfurey89]

Bad photo, but still loving this combo.
 

 

[tangents]

  Bad photo, but still loving this combo.

 
Does your cable have "L" and "R" on the 2-pin connectors? (mine don't)

 

[seamon]

 

  Bad photo, but still loving this combo.

 
Does your cable have "L" and "R" on the 2-pin connectors? (mine don't)

Some cables don't have that. I had a Plussound cable that didn't have L or R/ blue or red dots either. Just gotta find the channel by trial and error