[NamelessPFG]

290. There's a lot of misconceptions floating around this forum and other places, and the only way you'll know which ones are actually misconceptions is through personal experience.
291. If you don't write a guide, you're going to be correcting people on a case-by-case basis very often.

 

[Melvins]

292. Trappin' ain't easy

 

[Head Injury]

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291. If you don't write a guide, you're going to be correcting people on a case-by-case basis very often.

293. If you do write a guide, no one will ever read it.

 

[kingpage]

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289.   We don't measure music, we listen to it.  

294. Actually we do. Believe it or not, all music can be derived mathematically. Early musicians were scientists or mathematicians, but now music has been dumbed down to "what sounds good to a few ears is good enough". Music that is not measured is either out of tune, out of beats, or out of this world (in a bad way).
 
295. Measurement and listening are not mutually exclusive, contrary to popular belief.

 

[Chris J]

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294. Actually we do. Believe it or not, all music can be derived mathematically. Early musicians were scientists or mathematicians, but now music has been dumbed down to "what sounds good to a few ears is good enough". Music that is not measured is either out of tune, out of beats, or out of this world (in a bad way).
 
295. Measurement and listening are not mutually exclusive, contrary to popular belief.

Hi there, what I really meant is that if it measures good and sounds bad, then it is bad. If it measures bad and sounds good then it is good.  A gross oversimplification and also plagarized from (I believe) Nelson Pass. Or to put it another way, I don't watch music on an oscilloscope, I listen to it.  Bottom line is, don't over analyze the specs.
Personally I'm an amatuer (very amatuer!) drummer and I agree with your comment about tempo. Most of the music I listen to was recorded before Auto Tune and Pro Tools.
 
296.  "Don't fight it, feel it"   Sam Cooke

 

[Radio_head]

From Donald North's Signature:
"If it measures good and sounds bad, it is bad; if it measures bad and sounds good, you have measured the wrong thing." - Daniel R. von Recklinghausen, former Chief Research Engineer, H.H. Scott
 
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Hi there, what I really meant is that if it measures good and sounds bad, then it is bad. If it measures bad and sounds good then it is good.  A gross oversimplification and also plagarized from (I believe) Nelson Pass.

 

 

[Willakan]

297. If it measures well but sounds off under controlled conditions, you are measuring the wrong thing. 

 

[Chris J]

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From Donald North's Signature:
"If it measures good and sounds bad, it is bad; if it measures bad and sounds good, you have measured the wrong thing." - Daniel R. von Recklinghausen, former Chief Research Engineer, H.H. Scott
 
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Thanks!
Explains why I couldn't find it with a Nelson Pass google search.
You could apply this logic to SETs.
 

 

[Melvins]

298: Money very well could mean happiness. 

 

[DearestDane]

299. Even such a relatively harmless activity as listening to music on headphones, triggers cultural wars.

 

[Exediron]

300. I disagree with number 294 very strongly but would rather not make another full-page post to describe why.

 

[kingpage]

 
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294. Actually we do. Believe it or not, all music can be derived mathematically. Early musicians were scientists or mathematicians, but now music has been dumbed down to "what sounds good to a few ears is good enough". Music that is not measured is either out of tune, out of beats, or out of this world (in a bad way).
 

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300. I disagree with number 294 very strongly but would rather not make another full-page post to describe why.

 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_and_mathematics
 
301. No matter whether you're right or not, there're always people who disagree with you.

 

[Head Injury]

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_and_mathematics
 
301. No matter whether you're right or not, there're always people who disagree with you.

You can throw in some Fourier and Nyquist while you're at it.
 
Though I wonder if he meant your last two sentences, which implies not only that modern music is inherently inferior but also that music must be structured a certain way to be good.

 

[Chris J]

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300. I disagree with number 294 very strongly but would rather not make another full-page post to describe why.

Go for it man!
 
When I used to play drums in a band, I used to make a point of practicing technique on my own so that when I played with the band I did not have to think about technique and the mechanics of music, I would only have to think about supporting the song, the singer, the other musicians.  Music is fundamentally about mechanics, technique, scales, time signatures, tempo, dynamics, etc, but ultimately this must all be used as a vehicle to express feelings, if not, musical technique and knowledge is for nothing. 
 
As Sam Cooke said, "Don't fight it, feel it".
As Charlie Parker said, "I'm just looking for the pretty notes".

 

[sridhar3]

Music existed before mathematics did.