[Tilpo]

@borisu
You laugh? I lqughed hard seeing those

I kept my serious face.

My face rarely deviates from it.

 

[bowei006]

@rikkun
I was like that and am as well, my net surfing face is just unchanging but sometimes ill laugh at stuff you guys post

 

[akiroz]

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Anything wrong with that? Huh!?

I like Stax and Sennheiser. But I am biased.

Nope. I'm just saying people who think the HD800's are bright are Sennheiser-philes.!

 

[ImperialX]

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Anyway, I hope to remotivate myself by getting a proper text book instead of using internet tutorials and vocabulary training phone apps. They are useful, but you need a text book with exercises if you wish to get a grip on the grammar.

 
Not really. Genki is useful, but there are cases of people only using the Internet and succeeding. For instance, if you want grammar...
 
http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar
 
Personally, I feel that is more comprehensive and useful than any textbooks I've seen when it comes to building a solid grammar foundation. In fact if you go through all that, learn 2000 words, you will be able read most elementary Japanese media such as manga, light novel and eroge without much problem.

 

[akiroz]

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Not really. Genki is useful, but there are cases of people only using the Internet and succeeding. For instance, if you want grammar...
 
http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar
 
Personally, I feel that is more comprehensive and useful than any textbooks I've seen when it comes to building a solid grammar foundation. In fact if you go through all that, learn 2000 words, you will be able read most elementary Japanese media such as manga, light novel and eroge without much problem.

What's "genki"? (like besides the literal meaning.)
 
Well 2k characters is actually quite a lot... I've learned chinese for my entire life and I know less characters then that.....
 
Right now I can read katakana at the speed of around few seconds per character.......

 

[Tilpo]

Not really. Genki is useful, but there are cases of people only using the Internet and succeeding. For instance, if you want grammar...

http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar

Personally, I feel that is more comprehensive and useful than any textbooks I've seen when it comes to building a solid grammar foundation. In fact if you go through all that, learn 2000 words, you will be able read most elementary Japanese media such as manga, light novel and eroge without much problem.

And kanji. That's not an easy one.
I think my vocab is at around 500 at the moment, but kanji is something I need to keep practicing. I learned around 200 a couple months ago, but due to lack of practice I forgot most of them. It's feels so harsh.

I think I may pick up a book just for the Kanji, and do grammar on the internet.

Triple HS

 

[ImperialX]

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What's "genki"? (like besides the literal meaning.)
 
Well 2k characters is actually quite a lot... I've learned chinese for my entire life and I know less characters then that.....
 
Right now I can read katakana at the speed of around few seconds per character.......

 
Genki is a Japanese textbook that is used universally across the World in tertiary institutions. Personally I don't like the textbook at all, and I don't think it lays a good foundation like the site I posted.
 
Well, if you don't want to learn the words, then you can always just have a dictionary on you. The grammar foundation is most important. 2000 is a decent number. English is my second language and I learnt 5 words every day until I reached the 4000 mark. Then I stopped learning and here I am.
 
As for reading speed...the best way to practise that is switch your computer's OS, Facebook, Google, Wikipedia all to Japanese even if you don't understand it, but just practise reading out the characters. In a few months you'll be fluent.

 

[Tilpo]

What's "genki"? (like besides the literal meaning.)

Well 2k characters is actually quite a lot... I've learned chinese for my entire life and I know less characters then that.....

Right now I can read katakana at the speed of around few seconds per character.......

I know that feel. I can read hiragana fluently (read it aloud without pause), but katakana is slower.

 

[ImperialX]

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And kanji. That's not an easy one.
I think my vocab is at around 500 at the moment, but kanji is something I need to keep practicing. I learned around 200 a couple months ago, but due to lack of practice I forgot most of them. It's feels so harsh.
I think I may pick up a book just for the Kanji, and do grammar on the internet.

 
I'm Chinese. I never had to learn Kanji. I already knew more than what I'll ever need from Chinese. Katakana words I already knew from English. That's why for Japanese all I needed to learn was grammar and remember a few hundred more words in Hiragana...most of which I already know from watching so many anime.

 

[185717]

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Well, I won't be here (hopefully I'll be studying when I'm gone) for the next 24-36 hours. Wish me luck!

 
Lol, good luck with that :v
 
@bowei ..... daheck did I just see in class =w= like a boss minimising the screen before anyone saw.....

 

[manveru]

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Genki is a Japanese textbook that is used universally across the World in tertiary institutions. Personally I don't like the textbook at all, and I don't think it lays a good foundation like the site I posted.

 
Yeah, that's the text book they used at my school. Good link. Bookmarking that for sure.
 
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I know that feel. I can read hiragana fluently (read it aloud without pause), but katakana is slower.

 
Me too.

 

[Tilpo]

I'm Chinese. I never had to learn Kanji. I already knew more than what I'll ever need from Chinese. Katakana words I already knew from English. That's why for Japanese all I needed to learn was grammar and remember a few hundred more words in Hiragana...most of which I already know from watching so many anime.

Anime is like a god-given treasure when it comes to learning Japanese. It's amazing how quickly you can learn words when you try to look at the subs as little as possible.
With SoL's like k-on I can get by with looking at the subs only a couple lines per episode.

 

[akiroz]

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Genki is a Japanese textbook that is used universally across the World in tertiary institutions. Personally I don't like the textbook at all, and I don't think it lays a good foundation like the site I posted.
 
Well, if you don't want to learn the words, then you can always just have a dictionary on you. The grammar foundation is most important. 2000 is a decent number. English is my second language and I learnt 5 words every day until I reached the 4000 mark. Then I stopped learning and here I am.
 
As for reading speed...the best way to practise that is switch your computer's OS, Facebook, Google, Wikipedia all to Japanese even if you don't understand it, but just practise reading out the characters. In a few months you'll be fluent.

I see~
 
LOL How is it possible you can learn 5 words a day??
 
I have my iPod in japanese...
 
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I know that feel. I can read hiragana fluently (read it aloud without pause), but katakana is slower.

I can't read Hiragana......
 
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I'm Chinese. I never had to learn Kanji. I already knew more than what I'll ever need from Chinese. Katakana words I already knew from English. That's why for Japanese all I needed to learn was grammar and remember a few hundred more words in Hiragana...most of which I already know from watching so many anime.

I'm chinese too, and I've lived in HK for my entire life..... I can't read chinese..... 

 

[Tilpo]

I see~

LOL How is it possible you can learn 5 words a day??

5 a day is easy. That's 5-10 minutes of learning new words are revising old ones.
In 30 minutes you can learn and revise 30 words in my experience. But the important thing is that you do it every single day. But this requires discipline, which is a resource that is hard to acquire these days.

 

[185717]

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I'm chinese too, and I've lived in HK for my entire life..... I can't read chinese..... 

 

 
Wow XD but you should note, chinese is not a dialect I'm chinese too shang pride lulz