Reviews by koolkat

koolkat

1000+ Head-Fier
Pros: Folds up, better build quality.
Cons: Uncomfortable, boring sound.
First and foremost, I didn't buy these. Put in bogus purchase dates or it won't let me submit.
 
It was a really short audition, roughly 15 minutes. 
And this will be an equally short review.
 
In fifteen minutes I found out six good/bad things about the M50
 
1) Boring sound signature.
2) Very clampy head band.
3) Uncomfortable ear pads.
4) They are not as revealing as some say they are.
5) Loved the coiled cable. Very thick and solid.
6) collapsible, iirc.
 
I suppose point 2 and 3 aren't deal breakers since headphones
do get more comfortable over time.
 
The M50 wasn't worth S$240. It surely didn't sound like $240
to me. I auditioned the M50 and the Grado SR80, and I preferred
SR80's sound signature. 
 
The M50s are not overly revealing headphones. I suppose this could
be largely due to my mediocre DAP (fat PSP). They just sounded flat.
Didn't stand out in any department.
 
 
I suppose this is how Studio Monitor headphones should sound like...
I haven't tried the Sony MDR V6 or 7506 which are recommended quite
often to those looking to produce/mix music.
 
Btw, I was auditioning this at the time when everyone was recommending M50
to newcomers - June/July of 2011? I was like "Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat" when
I put them on. They're decent headphones but they certainly are not worth US150
or SGD240. 
 
I'm not a fan of the design either.
 
 
PhoenixClaw
PhoenixClaw
You're in Singapore right? You can get it for SGD 189. I have the M50s and they're really good starting headphones. I've tried many other models around the price range but for beginners the M50 is pretty tough to beat. Others might like a different presentation of sound, so YMMV.
XxDobermanxX
XxDobermanxX
Good review lol
gearofwar
gearofwar
this headphone needs a good amount of time to burn in before it can reach its potential, you was simply a fool for denying it......

koolkat

1000+ Head-Fier
Pros: Light, supra-aural, retro design, thick cable.
Cons: Y link is a little flimsy, not as comfortable as some other headphones I've tried, namely Sennheisers.
I got these from a local shop for SGD120, about USD99.
 
Rewritten the whole review.
 
 
First impressions: These headphones are meh. A little overrated, doesn't carry bass very well.
Current impressions: Great headphones for dynamic rock with lots of guitar, drums and forward vocals.
 
I have modded my Grado SR60i a little. I had the plastic grill and button removed, a painstaking task, but well worth the time and effort. I have quarter-modded the comfies that the stock SR60 comes with and I have also removed the white cloth that covers the driver protectors.
 
Also poked 2 holes on each cup to increase the bass.
 
Some pics to illustrate my point
 
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Q-mod with cloth removed.
 
By cutting the bit of foam off the comfies and removing the bit
of white cloth that covers the driver protector, I've made the drivers
slightly more prone to dirt, dust and hair
 
but
 
since there's less material between the driver and your ears, music
sounds a little cleaner and brighter overall.
 
 
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Grill and button removed. Grado ring missing on the right.
 
Anything that covers the opening is an obstruction to the airflow.
If you cup your hands over the chamber opening, music sounds
a little trapped and muffled.
 
So I removed the grill and button. There's not a huge difference in
sound but every little change can make you go from liking your
Grados to loving them.
 
End result: Less obstruction - clearer sound.
 
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Two holes poked.
 
SR60s aren't really known for being bassy. They can produce
that little thump, but they're far from being bass monsters.
 
I've always thought that poking holes in there would cause 
an increase in bass quantity which would screw up the other
frequencies but I decided to poke one on each side just for
the lulz.
 
While it did tame the other frequencies a little (imo), it didn't
make the overall sound too muddy. The SR60 still sounds
a little harsh on some songs but poking the holes gave music
a little more body.
 
All this is very subjective, what works for me might not work for
you, vice versa. Out of curiosity, I poked another hole in each of 
the cups, so that's 2 holes each.
 
At first I thought the music sounded a little muddy and congested,
but nope. I feel that 2 holes is the sweet spot for me. But to be fair,
my FiiO E7 separated the musical instruments better than my onboard
sound card.
 
Without the E7, music sounded a little bloated and congested. 
For those with a poor onboard sound, then an amp/dac like the E7
will really make the SR60s shine.
 
Comfort
 
Comfort is still an issue. Clamping force out of the box is straight up
overpowered. I couldn't wear the SR60 for more than an hour straight.
 
A couple of guys suggested that I stretch out the headband since the
metal is quite ductile. That helped. The comfies pads are made of 
some low quality material that's quite uncomfortable.
 
It looks good alright, but I prefer the Senn HD414 pads for comfort.
Right now I can wear the SR60 on my head for 2 - 3 hours at a time.
They still hurt a little, but nothing too unbearable.
 
 
Burn-in
 
I'm not a true believer of burn-in. 
 
Comfort improved over time but I haven't had the Grados long enough to see if the headphones suddenly turn magical. Bought this roughly a month ago.
 
All in all
 
Great for alt. rock and indie stuff.
They're worth the price. Definitely.
 
 
 
Some song recommendations
 
The Killers - This River is Wild (Sam's Town)
The Killers - All These Things That I've Done (Hot Fuss)
Blue October - Into the Ocean 
 
 
bcasey25raptor
bcasey25raptor
I own the Alessandro MS1 which is a lot like these and I feel they are great for rock and metal. But surprisingly I like my laid back Shure SRH840 more for metal. Perhaps I am not the norm.
koolkat
koolkat
Imo, it depends on the type of rock you're listening to. I find these great for bands like Panic at the Disco, where the bass really isn't prominent, but for Red Hot Chilli Peppers, I'd definitely go for my HD438s.
Tefloon
Tefloon
Yeah, laid back headphones are better for certain kind of metal (i.e. most of the kinds I enjoy) IMHO.

koolkat

1000+ Head-Fier
Pros: Supports FLAC, simple interface, good DAC
Cons: Headphone jack's on the right side, should've been on the left.
Packaging
 
  • Sansa Clip+ player.
  • USB interconnect cable to charge via PC and to transfer data.
  • CD installer for Rhapsody.
  • Earbuds.
 
Pros
 
  • It supports a lot of formats, even lossless formats.
  • Very simple interface, easy to understand.
  • Very good music playback. Definitely better than players around and even above it's price point.
  • Option to add extra microSD card to increase storage space.
  • Can be clipped onto sleeve or slipped into your pocket easily.
 
Cons
 
  • I would've liked the headphone receiver jack to be on the left side.
  • Very small and lightweight, not very difficult to misplace.
  • 10 hours playback time.
 
I use the Jazz EQ preset.
 
To sum it up, I prefer the Clip+ sound to the sound from a PSP, iTouch and iPhone 3GS.
 
 
Highly recommended. 
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koolkat

1000+ Head-Fier
Pros: Good sound quality, made of hard plastic does not feel too flimsy, quality bass.
Cons: Velour pads get hot, some parts fail rather quickly
Comfort
These cans are definitely comfortable. They are not too heavy despite their size but they would be better suited for home use, I'll elaborate later on. The velour pads are warm and if you're living in a hot and humid climate, I wouldn't suggest these. They get really hot outside. One of these cans' strongest points is that they feel really comfortable for prolonged usage.
 
Noise-Cancelling
These are not noise-cancelling headphones. These headphones enclose your ears, blocking out some ambient noise but it is definitely not noise cancelling. These cans are hopeless on trains and other forms of public transport. I'm not sure how much they block out, but as a guide, if you are playing loud music, and you have someone shouting in your face, you can just hear them.
 
I suspect pleather pads would work better for attenuating noise but it has been suggested that pleather pads will make the bass bloated. 
 
I'm currently running it without an amp, but I'm planning to get an amp soon, so I'll update the review when the time comes. It plays fine unamped, but I'm curious as to what it would sound like amped. Extra bass? Hmm.
 
Edit: I didn't get an amp, I got a Sansa Clip+ instead. Much better internal amp and DAC compared to my PSP. I'm very satisfied with the purchase. 
 
Sound Quality
This is my first real headphones (former ones were stock Sony Ericssons/ Cheap Audio Technicas) so I can't really make a comparison in sound quality but in my opinion, they sound pretty darn good on my Clip+. My HD438s sound amazing plugged into my laptop but I say the type of music you play also determines the sound quality. I have a couple of FLAC music albums which are lossless compression formats, and the musical details can be heard clearly.
 
There is no hissing sound with the HD438s when I play music on high volumes, the bass is tight and punchy and not really boomy and overpowering. You can also hear the tiny little details as the sound is not too squashed together. Soundstage is average, but I would not recommend these headphones for first-person-shooter games where you need the treble to locate/position your targets. It can separate the music, bass on the left, lead guitar on the right, vice versa, etc but it doesn't give you that imaging needed for positioning in gaming.
 
These headphones come with 2 cables, so if one's broken or frayed, you can always switch to the other. The HD438s does not leak sound, unless the room is dead quiet, so I wouldn't worry too much about that either.
 
For those who are more ambitious, there was a head-fier who put up a video of himself changing the stock cables on the HD428 to Mogami cables. The HD4*8 series are built almost identical, so the youtube video might be useful for those keen on modding their cans. I included a couple of mods below in the mods section.
 
 
Build
I've heard complaints and seen reviews on Youtube where amateur reviewers say the Sennheiser 4x8 series are of terrible build quality but this is not true. They do not look or feel as flimsy as SkullCandy headphones and the headband's hard plastic is really solid and scratch resistant. The cable is also quite difficult to detach, which is a plus for me, I don't want my cables detaching when it gets snagged on a bus seat or something.
 
  1. The cables are thin, but they feel rather solid. It does make a little 'friction' sound when rubbed across plastic surfaces.
  2. The plastic part of the head band that elongates are rather weak. It's not built like a tank that for sure, but I'm sure it'll do just fine in a home/outdoor environment if you don't mistreat it.
 
  1. The only downside to it's looks is probably the "rims". The chrome rims can get stained easily (fingerprints, etc) and they might be too flashy for some people. Some have said they look "skullcandyish". But I don't really care. The sound quality makes up for that.
 
Comparing the HD438 to HD418, HD428 and HD448
 
Build
  1. The build quality is very simiilar with minor design changes. The HD418 have a wavy cup design and both the HD428 and HD448 feature sleek and classier designs. There is no noticeable difference in weight whatsoever.
  2. The HD438 is the only model from the HD4*8 line that has detachable cables. 
 
Comfort
  1. The HD428 and HD448 feature pleather or plastic leather earpads, while the HD418 and H438 both feature velour pads. There are stores that sell the headphones in different configurations.
  2. I prefer pads that are velour since they're more comfortable but they can really heat up your ears. It really depends on the weather. The velour pads need to be washed since they are dust magnets.
 
Sound Quality
  1. I have auditioned the HD418, HD428 and HD438 for a short period of time. They are not new products and have been available for auditioning for a few months before I took a trip to the store, so they are burn-in'd.
 
  1. The HD418 and HD438 have noticeably more bass than the HD428 on songs such as It was written by Damien Marley and Fluorescent Adolescent by Arctic Monkeys, which are pretty bassy songs imo. The HD428 feels like it lacks the kick, but that's just my opinion. You can actually get the HD438/448 and apply the bass mod to enhance the bass.
 
 
 
Modifications
 
Edit:
 
 
Tape Mod ♞

 



 

This is what it looks like. [Disregard the 4 holes, that's for later] 

 

Step 1: Detach the ear pads from your headphones. This requires quite a bit of force.

Step 2: Get some double-sided tape and tape the sides of the circle ring as shown in the picture.

Step 3: Attach the ear pads back on, all you have to do is clip them to the tiny hooks on the edge of the oval. 

Step 4: Press the gauze of the ear pads inwards towards the drivers to ensure the gauze sticks on to the tape.

 

What this modification does is it reduces the vibrations caused by the gauze of your ear pads when playing music at a high volume. Personally I don't think this mod is that important (I did it anyway) but if the gauze vibrations bother you, try it. 

 

♞ There should be no noticeable differences in sound quality. 

 

 

                                                                                     ★★★★★

 

 

The next modification requires you to open up your headphones even further. What it does is increase/decrease/tighten the bass on your headphones, depending on your preference. By default, there is a black mesh that covers three holes (iirc). This image below shows the backside of your HD4x8 headphones' driver enclosure.

 

Bass Mod 

 



 



 



 

 

Step 1: Use your fingers to locate the 4 screws hidden under the grey foam. 

Step 2: Get a Phillips screw driver and twist the screw out from above the foam.

Step 3: Once all the 4 screws are out, pull the driver enclosure out by pivoting from one end of the ear pad hooks. 

Step 4: Remove the black mesh. 

 

There are a couple of configurations.

 

Leaving all the holes (which were initially covered by the black mesh) uncovered will give you a full-blown bass. There will be lots of bass but the quality of the bass will not be as refined as it was. I suggest you experiment with the covering the holes with tape (this involves repeating steps 2-4 a couple of times) to get the best results. 

 

Edit 1: I covered one of the holes and the bass sounds a little tighter.

 

You can also try adding some deadening material in the chamber that surrounds the driver enclosure to tighten the bass, dynamat would be good for this.

 

Edit 2: Apparently the space in the chamber behind the driver enclosure is too small to attach dynamat or any other sound deadening material, or am I not doing it right?

 

♞ There is a huge difference in sound before and after this mod. 

♞ Left and right cups have different internal wirings.

 

 

Modifying tips:

 

☛ Place all the screws in a cup.

☛ Preferably do it on a table with a large surface area with ample lighting.

☛ Careful with wires, you might accidentally rip them loose.

 

I used my phone's camera to take the pics. 

 

Links: 

 

sbwf mod

 

bass mod

 
Foobar Configuration
I'm using the WASAPI plugin and a preset Home Theater EQ which can be downloaded off another audio forum. 
 
Clip+ Configuration
I didn't rockbox the player. I listen to most of my music on FLAC or high quality AAC and on the Jazz/Rock EQ settings. 
 
Packaging
Headphones
Extra detachable cable (long)
Gold plated jack for plugging it to your stereo.
 
TL;DR If you're into classical music, this isn't for you.
 
sid12345678910
sid12345678910
nice, good review +1, good mod seems intresting, might try
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