so, onkyo not shown granbeat successor in ifa? :( [if someone would wonder what a upgrade i need in already exelent product: -14/10nm soc -android8 (ldac) -slightly more battery -slightly more ram -bluethooth 5 -nfc (ok. for this smartwatch can be used) -lanyard hole (!) -ip68 (!) -more lte...

1) 160,520 2) 167,005 3) 169,790

for more protection, they should had made a reliable lug for safety lanyard.. -_-   ps: and use 14nm soc for less energy consumption.. pps: and some waterproofness would be good..

any info about how long battery last in real life?

not further than you want, i backed in last hour just for simple pulse :)

"weight is not matter.."  (~q) 5element. :)   if say it another way, i can easily put cowon7 in jeans "clock" pocket or small front pocket in running shorts..  (and don't provoke passing by ladys to think i really happy to see them :) sony? i doubt..

"a" and design from 25/11 looks like ipod. absolutely don't like.   too big case. too big screen. too similar to x3.   imho, absolutely most people satisfied with playing music from smartphone. to that ~1% which don't satisfied x1 is not needed.  ~400$ difference from top players to x3...

way too big, and ~10hrs. playback is ridiculous small..   suddenly find new sony e585..  still too big, but if it have enough power output and can work as flash-drive..   and fiio x1 may be the answer. if final design will not look like a ipod clone.. :\

still not replaced.. and with current tendencies i almost have no hope for..   (if i not be too lazy and microelectronics dumb i may be start a kickstarter project for this.. :)

from technical viewpoint which better, geek pulse or http://www.audio-gd.com/Pro/Headphoneamp/NFB1132/NFB11.32EN.htm ? :)

important: equal or higher sound quality. 50+hours of playing. in fact. direct copying \ usb drive functionality. mp3\flac\wav support. (ogg\ape is optional) size about 75x35x20mm. (~3x1.4x0.8 inches) 16gb. (or less if sd support)   any suggestion?   i looked to teclast x19hd...