A little more info to add. I find that my D2000s if anything have a tad too much bass, would like something faster in am iem. But definitely don't want flat bass eq

Still looking but less convinced I will go for these, lack of feel and too wider U eq curve worries me most. Reviews aren't generally positive enough for me to gamble Compares with the tf10 I had before where majority of people agreed on the sound in general

That is true, I did find the tf10 were a nightmare each time I put them in to achieve a seal. Even having to research them many times during some sessions. Wish they were designed differently

So there aren't that many phones that out do the tf10 for treble at all?

Yes I'm definitely after treble over anything else (if i had to chose) as I don't listen to too much with vocals I have never had any issues with kids of any headphones just bass and treble. I never tried the er4 when I got my tf10s originally I don't want to be without bass just want it to...

I've certainly read through the threadand I am interested, need a few more views from others. How many headfiers have them?

on paper it sounds great, its a shame it hasnt been out longer, im not convinced yes or no, its a gamble, maybe id have to get both at the same time! i like the looks!

Quote: hmm it is an interesting looking phone on paper. My listening tends to comprise dubstep, electro, techno, classical.. pop music too. the flaws i usually notice in phones are poor treble, i cant stand it.

Quote: my worry is they are so new! i like a very detailed high end and sharp bass, A U curve really. but its the top end i really notice if its missing.

looks like they are $399, thats gonna be near £300! probably 2x too much!  

Quote: thanks for the offer! :)

it pulled the plastic blue nozzle off the shell, tbh, they will necer sound the same i doubt, its not like an electronic product where its on or off, it could have affected the drivers,   would have been detergent in there too!   it was a pain   finding these, trying out different...

hi, i recently put my ultimate ears tf 10s through the wash so i need some more headphones.   i had these before logitech bought the company. i loved the sound signature with prominent top end   should i get the same phones again (considering they are under logitech now) or go for...

with this i can plug any headphones into the adapter, would be really useful if its good.   are there any other devices like the above? and are they still likely to be dire if you use youre own headphones? its a sony product

Im looking at the sony MW600 to pair with my htc desire and UE triple fi 10s, the desire isnt amazing as it is but will it sound really bad on this? looking for others with actual experience