[manishex]

Try the V5i, they are half the price and don't have the stability issues. I'd say they offer 90% of the full experience whereas the AD797/AD823 are 75%

 

[HOWIE13]

  Hello,
 
For my part, I have buy some op amps ( AD797  AD823  OPA627 muses8920)  and I will try them.
But I will  not go for the burson v5 : too expensive for my taste and fiability problems ....
 
Regards,

100% agree with you.
 
Too many failures with Burson op-amps.

 

[Feilong4]

  Try the V5i, they are half the price and don't have the stability issues. I'd say they offer 90% of the full experience whereas the AD797/AD823 are 75%

 

  100% agree with you.
 
Too many failures with Burson op-amps.

 
That's good to know as I was considering them. Very skeptical in the upgrade in performance though.  Are the AD797/AD823 the stock ones?

 

[HOWIE13]

   
 
That's good to know as I was considering them. Very skeptical in the upgrade in performance though.  Are the AD797/AD823 the stock ones?

Stock are OPA134 and NE5532.

 

[URNape2]

Well, I pulled the trigger!  Finally!  Excited to see what I've been missing out on.  Really appreciate this thread and all the information!

 

[swannie007]

I think you will be happy with this amp. Just have realistic performance expectations and you will not be disappointed.
As you well know, it takes at least a 100 hours or so to "burn in" so don't be quick to judge. The Burson op amps are a nice upgrade and I really enjoy mine, well worth the money, in my opinion, but YMMV. I have had my amp and dac for about two and a half years now and don't see myself getting rid of them.  The build quality, components and sound are absolutely premium for the dollars paid and would be hard to beat, in my opinion. Enjoy. Cheers.

 

[gug42]

  Try the V5i, they are half the price and don't have the stability issues. I'd say they offer 90% of the full experience whereas the AD797/AD823 are 75%

 
 
Hum ... well for the 4 v5i needed : 130$ (without shipping) ... it's quite expensive in regards of the gustard H10 price (270$ shipping included) ...
(Ok full boat v5 : 200$ (without shipping))

 

[HOWIE13]

Has there been any comparison of sound differences between the V5i and the previous flawed Burson V5 iterations, or with the stock, or with 797/823 combo op-amps which are considerably cheaper?

 

[Madman242]

   
 
Hum ... well for the 4 v5i needed : 130$ (without shipping) ... it's quite expensive in regards of the gustard H10 price (270$ shipping included) ...
(Ok full boat v5 : 200$ (without shipping))

Some people have said that if you only upgrade the singles you'll get most of the benefit. I've also read here that upgrading the duals is only required if you are using the balanced inputs, but I'm not sure that has been confirmed.

 

[sunneebear]

  Some people have said that if you only upgrade the singles you'll get most of the benefit. I've also read here that upgrading the duals is only required if you are using the balanced inputs, but I'm not sure that has been confirmed.

XLR and RCA inputs both go through the dual opa's.

 

[jazzwave]

  Has there been any comparison of sound differences between the V5i and the previous flawed Burson V5 iterations, or with the stock, or with 797/823 combo op-amps which are considerably cheaper?

 
My HD10 currently use V5, tried stock and 797 before. I considered Burson  V5 1 step next level from 797 or stock.
V5 has bigger soundstage, good bass , open treble but not fatigue (I'm using HD600).
Cons: I got first batch V5 , has popping sound issue, Burson sent the replacement. Problem solved
 
I  use V5i in my other amp, old head amp Maverick D1. I'm very happy with result, fyi I almost want to sell D1 but cancelled after opamp changed with V5i  (replaced 627)
 V5i opamp running well. 5 hours/day without heat issue 
 
~ron~ 

 

[HOWIE13]

   
My HD10 currently use V5, tried stock and 797 before. I considered Burson  V5 1 step next level from 797 or stock.
V5 has bigger soundstage, good bass , open treble but not fatigue (I'm using HD600).
Cons: I got first batch V5 , has popping sound issue, Burson sent the replacement. Problem solved
 
I  use V5i in my other amp, old head amp Maverick D1. I'm very happy with result, fyi I almost want to sell D1 but cancelled after opamp changed with V5i  (replaced 627)
 V5i opamp running well. 5 hours/day without heat issue 
 
~ron~ 

Thanks ron, that's very helpful. 

 

[gug42]

   
My HD10 currently use V5, tried stock and 797 before. I considered Burson  V5 1 step next level from 797 or stock.
V5 has bigger soundstage, good bass , open treble but not fatigue (I'm using HD600).
Cons: I got first batch V5 , has popping sound issue, Burson sent the replacement. Problem solved
 
I  use V5i in my other amp, old head amp Maverick D1. I'm very happy with result, fyi I almost want to sell D1 but cancelled after opamp changed with V5i  (replaced 627)
 V5i opamp running well. 5 hours/day without heat issue 
 
~ron~ 

Your talking, for the gustard, about the big v5 ?  not the v5i ?
 
 
Regards,

 

[HOWIE13]

Your talking, for the gustard, about the big v5 ? not the v5i ?


Regards,

Yes it seems that there has not yet been a decent evaluation of these V5i's compared to other op amps in H10 .
They are also rated max voltage 16V, which could still be a problem, like with the V5.

At present I'm using 627/823 and enjoying a clear, lively, engaging and euphonic sound.

 

[gug42]

Ok thx.
I have 627 797 and 823 so i will try all of them (well when I will get some more time )