Ah maybe some wires crossed ( no pun), right left polarity is not an issue but was questioning the phase via the test on site I posted. Probably doesn`t make a difference in general, just wondered mate.

Cheers for that, kind of wished my KS10 appeared in phase which by default doesn`t appear to be. Don`t think (even though not really possible) turning cables around would alter that tbh. Was just wondering if this was KS approach or my pair a tad iffy.

Someone posted this audio site for tests on the forums so tried it with the KS10. Not sure if iems are meant ot be in phase or not but my KS10 is louder on the out of phase test. Could some one report if they have the same with any KS iem? https://www.audiocheck.net/audiotests_polaritycheck.php

ZS10 pro update: Last night i decided to use my FiiO cable on the ZS10 and much better controlled vocals, still have a metallic edge but sssss and tststststs vastly reduced. I presume FiiO`s cable is just copper and ZS10 an iffy silver plated affair. Cant use the ZS cable on the FiiO due to the...

Nice post mate.

I agree with with the nozzle comment, Westones hated anything wider than their standard narrow and tip rolling these ZS and FiiO with fully wide open silicone or foam isn`t beneficial either to me. Spinfit narrower than standard and would like them even narrower but heck, for now, a positive.

Good job I didn`t try too hard to spin them hey. Cheers for the vid and interestingly echoes my thoughts of them. Good stuff.

SpinFit tip update on the KS10 pro... Completely genuine tips but don`t spin, not that important but probably due to the tips really having to be squeezed on the nozzle, just fit. Tip model CP145. Remarkably these tips calm down the extremely brittle female vocal (EDM music) making them much...

Yep did look for the EARNINE`s but look really hard to get hold of so back burner for now.

Ok will put Starsea on my future list. Hmm, not sure how you could call, even these days a W4 mediocre but if you have a quick scan through my SD3 review in my sig (so old images gone) they do make them `standard` in the end. Also in the review soundstage is mentioned a fair bit, this to me is...

Thanks for the list. It sort of is about price as I bet none of these use crossovers but it does look like things have progressed massively if you can tune the BA`s right. Believe me, if you can give me a Westone 4 for under £100 I would bite your hand off.

"The Headphone List was founded by ljokerl and average_joe, the two pioneers of iem reviewing and early contributors to the portable audiophile community" I was here when those guys were here and haven`t seen them in recent forums. They knew their stuff.

Thanks for your help mate. Edit: What is striking about this price range is the mids/vocals/treble - it`s like someone saying look at my lovely solid oak worktop then you realise it`s MDF.

Many thanks for your reply, interesting. I received and have used the FiiO FD1 in the last 24hrs and personally if you could nudge the mids/highs of the FiiO into the ZS10 then that would be a decent mix. As much as the FiiO has more of a Soundstage, the ZS10 does the bottom end better imo. I...

Received the FD1 today and after a quick listen before some overnight burn-in, yep for this price range it holds vocals from the edge of misery. Male vocals better than female for now but expect after a few hours this to even out, this is just via a Samsung S9 phone. I have to say in general I...

Cheers mate, taken a punt on the Fiio FD1 for now (Still have a Fiio `Alpen` amp also) My problem is that over the years I have heard some decent (expensive) IEM`s and doesn`t make this price range/performance that easy. I am not throwing money at this game anymore so see how this punt goes.

I would go with: Inear Stage Diver 3 Westone 4 Klipsch X10 Westone 3 Westone 2 Denon AHC700 Sennheiser IE8 Shure 535

Just read this on the KAZ review so that`s ruled the out and other variants unfortunately. Exactly what I think about the 10 pro. I think it is again a local (Europe, Asia etc.) discussion why the highs always have to have this subliminal aggressiveness with KZ. Personally, I'm slowly getting...

Thanks for your responses guys.

After a couple of days with the KS ZS10 pro, kind of proves to me this price point seemed too good to be true. The brittle upper mid/treble (female vocal) bothers the hell out of me, no matter which tips. Decent low end but too artificial to me. Is there anything sub £100 that is as smooth as a...

The KZ ZS10 pros arrived today. Settled on an old pair of foam tips, think they were Comply tips but round with a grey centre filter (tames the brittle high end) Played around on youtube with my Galaxy S9 phone and considering these things cost £42, their effort with Noisia is damn good, fast...

How times have moved on hey, even the website here lol (messed up sig etc). Hope you are ok mate.

Been out of the IEM game for years and can`t believe what they are putting in these cheap iems these days. Just ordered some KZ ZS10 pro`s just use on a walk.

Haven`t visited this site in erm... a long time but great to see this thread is still going!!

Damn I wish I still had mine now to fiddle with (probably break but fiddle). Pre tea bag days I used tissue over my Denon C751`s which worked really well.   As the only specified difference between the models is the housing material, is there any room in the housing to line it or coat it...