I.....I don't think this is quite how it works.

Yes, that's exactly what I was saying. I took a short tour of their factory a few years ago and they certainly didn't mention anything about burning in for better sound. :)

Okay, well that's an interesting surprise to me.

ADL/Furutech GT40 was a well-regarded budget DAC with phono, but it's been around for a few years and quite long in the tooth - ADL just announced the updated Stratos that is supposed to launch next month for about $800, so might be worth it to wait for reviews.  Has a Sabre 9018 DAC for PCM and...

Hah.  Finally.  I wonder when that happened in the model run?

Thanks! Too bad...maybe no trigger out for me! :o

Fantastic, thanks for being the guinea pig! :D

Add the 12v trigger...

I doubt NAD would admit it anytime soon if true, and the marketing blurbs look a bit different (the C510 does not specifically mentioned the engine processing power or the 800-odd KHz sample rate talked about for the M51, referring only to the 35-bit architecture).  But as the specs and the rear...

Yes, I guess that's what I'm getting at - the network streaming, etc. options on the new one look nice, but if the sound quality isn't bumped over the M51, that phono stage will have to be awful good to make it worth the extra dough.  Assuming the new C510 is basically the old M51 repackaged...

To answer my own question, I guess something like the PS Audio NuWave Phono Converter would solve this problem - you'd run the turntable into the NuWave and then out into the M51 via digital outputs/inputs.  Not a cheap solution, but if you can find a used M51 and NuWave for less than $2500...

Is it even possible to use a turntable with a M51 using its preamp? Never really thought about it before...not really any way to do that, right? There's nowhere for a phono preamp to connect to it.

Can't quite figure this out either....descriptions are not identical, tough to tell if they just added a volume knob and rebranded, or if there's some internal downgrading.....

Wow, first I've heard of the M12 - I see they've added a phono section, very cool. Wonder if there's any change in the DAC itself? Don't see any mention of DSD.... edit: looks like lots of streaming and wireless options which is nice, and a modular approach, which may help with some level of...

Has anyone tested the new D8 yet?  I don't see any info about it anywhere, but I did notice it available on Grant Fidelity's website and from the numbers (and price), it may be a big upgrade over the DA8....