Sennheiser HD800 vs. AKG K1000 (bass light)
Fourth Installment -
Chamber
Note: this is an ongoing series of posts comparing classical music as rendered by the old champ (K1000) versus the reigning champion (HD800). Opinions are strictly my own, and reflect my personal taste, biases, preferences, what I had for lunch, etc. For previous installments, see prologue, solo keyboard, and opera.
So I’ve let this go for a couple months now, partly because I just started teaching (middle school lol), partly because I listen to less chamber music—and am less confident in my ability to listen to chamber music—than opera. Chamber music is also just much more diverse than other genres, so the following impressions are necessarily less comprehensive than my survey of solo keyboard or opera.
I will in the interest of transparency begin with my general conclusions and follow them with my specific listening impressions. The An Die Ferne and Oboe Quartet impressions were made some months ago.
The Swivel
There are no rules about how wide to open K1000. However, I find that closed, it requires less power and retains more bass. For chamber, I leave it open just wide enough not to touch my ears (perhaps 25%).
LISST (Mjolnir 2 digression)
Bass extension has always been a K1000 complaint. I think LISST has gotten a bad rap, but solid state definitely goes further in the low end than tubes, and whatever claimed ‘taming’ of high end tubes offer, I think this makes it a worthy option to look at when pairing it with K1000. I used LISST only for the Schubert and Schumann, but the results were excellent on both headphones, so shoutout to Jason, you’re good at your job! LISST exceeds its reputation. Subjectively, I detect less rattle than usual, but this could be from any number of things (smaller ensembles, in particular). Furthermore, I think the necessity for pairing tubes with HD800 is overstated. LISST is not, to my ears, excessively bright, fatiguing, “over-revealing” (???), or in any other way undesirable. (But if you’re buying, skip the stock tubes, they’re a piece of schiit. Get iFi, Reflektor ’75, or Amperax Orange Globes.)
Differences
As in every a/b, they will be overstated. Part of the months-long delay for this section is indeed that the two cans are quite similar for chamber music—both excellent picks, as long as you can afford at least a Mjolnir 2 for your K1000.
Transparency
While HD800 are I think more accurate headphones (with a caveat about my misgivings concerning their rendering of the piano), something about K1000 captures the live essence of performance—probably their ‘near field monitor’-ness. Does anyone else hear colorations in the sound? They must be minor, but I detect a secret sauce somewhere. Nevertheless, I think HD800 conveys strings with a touch more richness and authority, even if the overall effect isn’t quite as dazzling. K1000 captures (inserts?) some of the magic of live performance, thanks probably to its extraordinary soundstage.
Value
I haven’t yet decided whether to do a final comparison on symphonic and choral music (please let me know if you are interested). Nevertheless, in case I don’t, I want to add a word here about value for money. I bought mine for $1650, whereas HD800 was about $950 after I replaced the aging ear pads and headband. Used HD800 have dropped a few hundred dollars in the 18 months I’ve owned mine. It’s difficult to swallow the pill of Audeze prices for something with as narrow a set of use-cases as the K1000. I unhesitatingly recommend HD800 to virtually everyone with even a casual interest in acoustic music, but K1000 is both a worse value and less broadly useful purchase. It should be bought only by those for whom classical music is a primary genre. For these, as I implied in my bang/marry/kill point in the prologue, I think HD800 must still be everyone’s first choice (marry), but that K1000 is an unbelievable complementary headphone(/ear speaker). Prices seem to range from $1400 to $2000 on the used market.
Should I buy?
The engineers behind K1000 have gotten back together and are planning a successor, the “MySphere”:
http://www.mysphere.at/
I would wait to purchase K1000 until this headphone has been released, as it claims to have (1) great comfort, (2) no rattle, and (3) much smaller power demands. However, word on the street is that it will also have (4) a Focal Utopia-level price. Still, if you’re seriously interested, you should wait until a price and initial impressions of MySphere come out in 2017.
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Beethoven - Cello Sonata #3 - Richter and Rostropovich
This gem is the perfect storm for the K1000—the low FQ of the cello mitigates its natural tendency toward the treble.
K1000 continues to showcase its solo piano black magic: it manages to thread the needle between solidity and resonance on the lower end and effortless, airy precision up top. The effect is sublime and breathtakingly transparent. HD800 sound accurate but mundane. The recording dates from the early 1960s, and the sound, though good, is not pristine in the manner of contemporary recordings. Ultimately HD800 lacks the suppleness and finesse that this recording requires; it brings Angela Merkel when Kate Middleton is really all you need.
Mozart - Oboe Quartet in F K370, Amadeus Quartet and Lothar Koch
Really lovely oboe playing here; strings allow the instrument to show off all of its lovely intricacies. HD800 is more earthy and intimate; K1000 is more airy and soaring, and its insensitivity means a blacker background, a greater sense of instruments emerging out of the room you’re sitting in. Can’t pick a definitive imaging champ; they are both at the absolute top of the pack. My own classical preferences recommend neutral, reference cans, and owning both of these, I can’t imagine life without them; they are different flavors (HE-6, which I hope to mod further, and amp better, is a third) but both glorious. I recall Captain Von Trapp from the Sound of Music saying at one point “We are not German, we are Austrian—and that is a very different thing.” So too is the German Sennheiser clinical in ways that the Austrian AKG is organic, a point made before but which bears repeating.
Beethoven: An die ferne Geliebte (Wunderlich, Diesen)
No question that Fritz Wunderlich was a premature loss; his voice is
made for lieder: bright, smooth, expressive. I’ve often said K1000 stamps its own ethereal sense of space over what HD800 renders in more prosaic, but plausible, terms. The barest hint of echoes of the hall that Wunderlich is in is perceptible on the K1000. The main problem I have listening to the NBC Symphony recordings with Toscanini is that there is no decay, no resonance in their recording space, which robs it of grandeur. K1000 threads this incredible needle of conveying “inches from the singer’s mouth” immediacy and capturing the acoustic of the space. Lieder, I think, might be the deadliest weapon in K1000’s arsenal, not least because they are not weighty enough for EQing them to waken The Rattle such as larger orchestral works do.
HD800 - Interestingly enough, although I’m still tepid about the HD800 and piano (EQ is slowly narrowing the gap), the prominence of vocals in lieder and the HD800’s command with all things vocal makes lieder a strength, if not an equal strength, for them. Thicker rendering of voice and piano, less separation between the two, and more closed-in space, but perhaps more technically perfect.
Schumann - Frauenliebe und -leben (Anne Sofie von Otter, Bengt Forsberg) - LISST
Perhaps giving us the definitive liederkreise for the female voice, Schumann runs the emotional gamut, daring to let the piano fill emotional space that Schubert never would have (especially in the final song).
Reading the above remarks two months on, I can only underline my preference for K1000 for lieder. Vocals are essentially a wash, HD800 renders piano through a window that K1000 removes. (I recall someone posting somewhere that K1000 sounds “better than live,” i.e., in every live performance, you will hear some slight muddiness that K1000 artificially removes.) HD800's soundstage, too, feels closed in, and yet the performance simultaneously feels more distant. I am surprised that I find the
smaller ensembles to be where K1000 surpasses HD800 most, and the larger symphonic stuff where (at least without a better amp) it can’t compete as plausibly.
Schubert - Trout Quintet (Emil Gilels & Amadeus Quartet) - LISST
Piano remains the question over which I despair most: the impact that is lessened in K1000 seems to be replaced in HD800 by occasional bloat somewhere in the upper bass/low mids. HD800 images beautifully, as does K1000; the quartet is very clearly in front of me, with the cello off to the hard right and violins to the left—only the viola seems to sink into the woodwork (it’s just off dead center to the right, but audible rarely). Detail retrieval is a wash, but K1000 gets the nod for delineating complex passages. Strings have more bottom with HD800, and are more polished. Yet they sparkle more with K1000, and have a certain rust, or musk, or sepia quality that moves me from the recording studio in which the recording was invariably made to the concert hall in which I
would like to imagine the performance taking place. This effect of conveying live performance is subtle and counterintuitive: K1000’s signature is tilted upward, which would suggest an even more clinical sound. It also has difficulty coming off in orchestral music because of the sheer lack of impact. But in solo piano and chamber and lieder it is uncanny.
HD800 is Tebaldi; K1000 is Callas.
Beethoven - Große Fugue - Emerson Quartet - LISST
Gonna call it a wash. K1000 is more spherical in the soundstage, HD800 more left-right. K1000 more thrilling, HD800 more weighty. Apologies for ending with a whimper.