[Knale]

Me too - received them on Monday....the signature is uber addictive/moreish. The stock cable is meh, so had to switch it out for a balanced cable with R6 Pro & use an adaptor when listening via DAC. They traverse any genre easily, handles electronica, binaural recordings, acoustic instruments with great authenticity/immersion. I agree Delci are the perfect daily mobile set (not taken them out all week!) Added another set of tips today & now the fit is so snug they feel seamlessly like part of your ear !!

It has a super short nozzle which is giving me a bear of a time getting a good fit(the curse of deep ears). I agree though that the sound is terrific.

 

[activatorfly]

It has a super short nozzle which is giving me a bear of a time getting a good fit(the curse of deep ears). I agree though that the sound is terrific.

Imo they're not overly short - by attaching tips with more grip obvs reduces any potential slippage.

 

[PixelSquish]

I read some Quattro posts in this thread, have many more people gotten it?

This hobby has multiple reasons to not buy stuff. You can pick any reason. Price, company, collab, potential fit issues, design, or you just don't need it in your collection. Maybe you even just like money.

I am in the market for a cozy open-back, and it looks good. Even if it's on par with my Edition XS, it looks better built. I feel that my Edition XS headphone is just one fall away from being unusable. I don't care about product stories, and only if they are good, and good for my use.

As far as the drama goes. I kinda hate drama, and feel everyone deserves a second chance as misunderstandings are a part of life. Culture in the Ukraine is very different, and in a sense I feel we are helping someone who is being affected by a brutal war. Again politics aside, I'm only considered with the quality of the product and as this is an experienced veteran and the build of the headphone looks great, I think for it's price it is promising.

You are comparing various product reasons to not buy them vs not supporting a terrible person. Big difference.

 

[PixelSquish]

What's one of the most recommended $500 or less IEM recommended for a more musical/organic/slightly warm presentation while still having good technicalities?

 

[JrOcinthepark]

Thanks for the link. Very useful



So, say, let’s think about AFUL MagicOne and the Singolo. By making the diameter of the tube (S) very small (micron accuracy they claim), make the tube very long (l) by folding upon itself, and adding a box / chamber (V0) at the end of the tube, they can force the resonance to happen at a lower frequency where bass is, thus making the bass louder . And then they can dampen the main driver to achieve the desired response above the bass.

Fascinating simulation tool they have there to test these before manufacturing.

Edit: so for PR like EA1000, the “box” has a diaphragm attached to the end to turn the vibration of the air inside the box into potentially audible sound. It’s the air rather than electrical current that drives the diaphragm. I wonder if the box is connected to the front or the back of the main DD. Fascinating how they can tune the PR to do certain things just by taking advantage of the “left over” energy from the main DD.

Edit 2: since taping the PR of the DZ4 increases bass, it’s likely that Letshuoer’s implementation uses PR as a part of the front vent.




Impressions??? Not fair to tease the box without sharing impressions mate

My ability to afford such products also prohibits my ability to use them extensively. For the most part, I cannot tell the difference between my ESS, AKM, and cirrus products at all. My prediction is I’ll feel similar about the ROHM chip in the elite. Still, as far as build, the highest quality I’ve had in my hands.

 

[lgcubana]

P. S. If someone reshells Trio (or similar), names it Trigressor (or smth) and sends it on a tour as "a secret advanced project of a major IEM company; few eyes only" - hard to doubt this IEM not to be highly acclaimed, if not raved about!
After all, if to carefully match a right kilobuck cable and to accentuate with proper display accesories - any IEM (and especially good ones, like Trigressor) must be highly enjoyable.
A notch higher is sending few samples to selected reviewers on condition of strict anonymity with the review release on a designated midnight followed by some careful teasing info leaks. Lastly, sending a free sample and a six-pack - not to influence opinions by any means, but solely to enhance and elevate the reviewing experience - so that full enjoyment, tonality and technical performance will all be duly discovered and hyped. That is how fashion business works, right?!

Guilty. The non-descript design of the Trio has kept me on the sideline. But for $20 bucks (on AE, vs. $40 on Amazon), I'll listen to them in the dark.

 

[InvisibleInk]

My ability to afford such products also prohibits my ability to use them extensively. For the most part, I cannot tell the difference between my ESS, AKM, and cirrus products at all. My prediction is I’ll feel similar about the ROHM chip in the elite. Still, as far as build, the highest quality I’ve had in my hands.

The thing is, in order to know how a DAC sounds compared to another DAC, you need the rest of the hardware components to be identical. I think this is a pretty rare circumstance. For example, a few years ago, after the AKM fire, Shanling replaced the DAC chip in their M8 DAP with an ESS chip, while making no other changes that I'm aware of. If you had both versions of that M8, then you could stage a fair comparison between the sound of the DACs, since the rest of the implementation factors are the same.

 

[lgcubana]

LOL The Trio reshelled and labeled Vader by KZ LOL

Who's your Daddy ?

 

[baskingshark]

What are the thoughts on the sivga nightingale, tried it tdy and it was a very interesting set

It has a very niche midcentric tuning with a sub-bass roll-off. Midcentric gear shine well with vocals and acoustic genres for example, but falls flat with bass heavy music like EDM, hip hop for example.

So in a way, this is a specialist IEM, aces genres that synergize with it, but perhaps isn't as versatile to pair with other genres.

Depends on your music preferences really, can be make or break. But the Nightingale really is the bees' knees for those genres that work with it.

I think everyone in this hobby should try or own Z1R at some point

Problem with the Z1R was the horrendous fit, that gave quite a number of consumers issues.

No point having the most heavenly sound but one cannot tolerate the fit or comfort for more than a few minutes.

Who's your Daddy ?

KZ Vader telling all CHIFI:

What's one of the most recommended $500 or less IEM recommended for a more musical/organic/slightly warm presentation while still having good technicalities?

Maybe check out the ThieAudio Hype 4

 

[Tzennn]

I read some Quattro posts in this thread, have many more people gotten it?

ya doing tour, i'm about to post some impression this weekend!

 

[mathi8vadhanan]

Me too - received them on Monday....the signature is uber addictive/moreish. The stock cable is meh, so had to switch it out for a balanced cable with R6 Pro & use an adaptor when listening via DAC. They traverse any genre easily, handles electronica, binaural recordings, acoustic instruments with great authenticity/immersion. I agree Delci are the perfect daily mobile set (not taken them out all week!) Added another set of tips today & now the fit is so snug they feel seamlessly like part of your ear !!

Picked up mine from the mailbox just now. 3 tracks in and these have no business being this good for $60.
Stock cables are pretty nice, but the tips not so much. They're too supple and didn't even have to try them to know, they're not going to make good seal.
The tips from Zero2 are perfect on this, having the same short stubby nozzles. These have a nicer sub-bass to mid-bass ratio, compared to the trio. Fit and comfort is on another level.

 

[Redcarmoose]

It has a very niche midcentric tuning with a sub-bass roll-off. Midcentric gear shine well with vocals and acoustic genres for example, but falls flat with bass heavy music like EDM, hip hop for example.

So in a way, this is a specialist IEM, aces genres that synergize with it, but perhaps isn't as versatile to pair with other genres.

Depends on your music preferences really, can be make or break. But the Nightingale really is the bees' knees for those genres that work with it.






Problem with the Z1R was the horrendous fit, that gave quite a number of consumers issues.

No point having the most heavenly sound but one cannot tolerate the fit or comfort for more than a few minutes.






KZ Vader telling all CHIFI:









Maybe check out the ThieAudio Hype 4

The design of the IER is resulting in the actual sound. Meaning they could have not made it any other way. The metal process in junction with the drivers create anti-resonance and phase alignment, better than 98% of IEMs ever made. If you’re wondering where the IER-Z1R magic is, that’s one of the first places to look besides the X2 DD (Dynamic Driver and Dynamic Micro Tweeter) X1 BA. Remember too they moved the main DD driver positioning from the previous XBA-Z5 being sideways........becoming parallel to the eardrum. They also made the DD smaller. It is a heavy beast, at 12 grams a piece.

What I guess you’re talking (about) is the hideous fit for you? And yes, it gave a number of members fit trouble, but it worked for many. That’s why they say at least try it. Fit is subjective.

But Sony is known for thinking out of the box, and making stuff that has never existed here on Earth. Probably Sony will take into account the fit issues, and address them with MK2?

 

[Acts]

It has a very niche midcentric tuning with a sub-bass roll-off. Midcentric gear shine well with vocals and acoustic genres for example, but falls flat with bass heavy music like EDM, hip hop for example.

So in a way, this is a specialist IEM, aces genres that synergize with it, but perhaps isn't as versatile to pair with other genres.

Depends on your music preferences really, can be make or break. But the Nightingale really is the bees' knees for those genres that work with it.






Problem with the Z1R was the horrendous fit, that gave quite a number of consumers issues.

No point having the most heavenly sound but one cannot tolerate the fit or comfort for more than a few minutes.






KZ Vader telling all CHIFI:









Maybe check out the ThieAudio Hype 4

It has a very niche midcentric tuning with a sub-bass roll-off. Midcentric gear shine well with vocals and acoustic genres for example, but falls flat with bass heavy music like EDM, hip hop for example.

So in a way, this is a specialist IEM, aces genres that synergize with it, but perhaps isn't as versatile to pair with other genres.

Depends on your music preferences really, can be make or break. But the Nightingale really is the bees' knees for those genres that work with it.






Problem with the Z1R was the horrendous fit, that gave quite a number of consumers issues.

No point having the most heavenly sound but one cannot tolerate the fit or comfort for more than a few minutes.






KZ Vader telling all CHIFI:









Maybe check out the ThieAudio Hype 4

I had very similar thoughts, my music preference is extremely vocal centric, and the nightingale was a pleasant surprise and with its price point. The temptation was very real

 

[rawrj]

What's one of the most recommended $500 or less IEM recommended for a more musical/organic/slightly warm presentation while still having good technicalities?

I think that upcoming Dunu x GizAudio DaVinci might just suit all that to a T. A lot of early impressions seem to match up pretty well.

 

[FreeWheelinAudioLuv2]

There were times of fumbling with Sony, where they came out with a little known DAP before 2016 when they introduced the 1Z and 1A. Same as they made the Z7 as their TOTL, though it only held that position for a short time as around 2016/2017 before they made the full-size Z1R. And having both, I can say the MDR-Z1R is more of an audiophile headphone. But they had to make the MDR-Z7 to understand what they where doing. The MDR-Z1R is not been surpassed either, as the IER-Z1R. There are very few ways to know when Sony will make a IER-Z1R MK2. I mean sure the next one may be pretty good, and in a way the XBA-Z5 was like the MDR-Z7, before the MDR-Z1R came out? Both the Z7 and XBA-Z5 have a lot of bass! I know that’s a confusing example, but Sony seems to be improving this stuff with each step. They must have fired all the sound guys in white lab-coats as the MDR-R10 was the opposite of the MDR-Z1R, the R10 is totally totally neutral! The most neutral headphone ever made.

The Sony XBA-Z5 goes down as one of the most disappointing purchases of my entire life. All that money spent for what was a bass heavy and dark treble IEM with middling technicalities, and this purchase was based on the raves of several Discovery vets. Might be neck and neck with the disappointment in the Dita Truth, and just below the Mofasest Trio.