[Rambone]

I was sorta thinking about getting an android “iPod” like this r4 for work because I don’t want to use my iPhone at my job… this looks kinda thick and heavy though so not sure it would be too pocketable.

There is always the M300 which has a slimmer profile and probably generates less heat also.

 

[kaeswiss]

The Elysian Pilgrim is a hybrid which contains 1 x Liquid Silicone Rubber (LSR) DD and 3 x Sonion BAs.



Do take note this is the original Pilgrim, not the Noir Pilgrim version, which is more basshead (with some loss in resolution). The Noir variant is also pricier but comes with some kilobuck cable in the packaging.

So this OG Pilgrim is very light-weight and comfortable, shells are fashioned from stainless steel.

The OG Pilgrim has a U-shaped tonality, and is very clean sounding. Superb technicalities, expansive stage and solid layering. Fast, punchy and tight bass with a transparent midrange and resolving treble. Nimble transients with smooth upper mids.


8 kHz is a coupler artefact peak.

There's a whiff of BA timbre but not the biggest offender in this department. It also uses a Pentacon cable connector, which does limit aftermarket cable pairing.

Otherwise, the Pilgrim has a thicker lower midrange than the measurebator's gold-standard Moondrop Variations (Pilgrim doesn't sound so anemic there), with less upper mids glare than the Variations. The Pilgrim also has better staging and micro-details than the Variations.



This is a solid IEM from OOTB listening. Will do more A/B testing and burn-in and report back.

Hey do you mind comparing the Elysian Pilgrim to the Dita Project M? Your review of the Project M is pretty much in line with how I hear them so I'm wondering what you think of them compared to the Pilgrim. Both are at a very good price point in each brand's lineup, considering their other offerings are in the kilobuck+ range.

 

[baskingshark]

Letshuoer S12 ($109), Hidizs MP145 ($128), Kiwi Ear Quartet ($109), or Simgot EM6L ($110)? These would be my first real upgrade from budget IEMs (I enjoy my Kiwi Ear Cadenzas the most - also like the Salnotes Zero 2 because they fit well). I have bigger ears, so size isn't an issue. I would lean towards the MP145 based on everything I'm reading. Based on liking the Cadenza's sound signature and these options, which would be the best upgrade? Something I'm not considering that I should?

If you want something tonally to the Cadenza, probably the EM6L is the best bet. It is more technical than the Cadenza too.

S12 is a bright V-shaped IEM. Very technical but has recessed mids and planar timbre. Avoid if treble sensitive.

Quartet is a dark set, quite meh and lowFI sounding. Advise to skip.

MP145 is one of my favourite benchmark $100ish planars. Very huge soundstage when amped, good timbre for a planar, balanced tuning, though not the utmost in technicalities compared to other planars. It has 3 tuning nozzles to vary the signature a bit. Huge shells though, best if you can audition a pair first to try the fit.

It's raining good IEM, mates AFUL Explorer is coming late May. They got me at the line in the marketing material: "fusion of Magic One and P series"

Bro from the Can Jam Singapore pre-production Performer 3 (as it was called back then, and now the name has evolved to "Explorer"), I can tell you this IEM doesn't sound similar in note weight or the lush midrange as the Magic One.

It was a bit more balanced, more technical too, but not veering to sterility. But their rep said the tuning wasn't finalized at the show, and so who knows how the actual production unit will sound like?

Hey do you mind comparing the Elysian Pilgrim to the Dita Project M? Your review of the Project M is pretty much in line with how I hear them so I'm wondering what you think of them compared to the Pilgrim. Both are at a very good price point in each brand's lineup, considering their other offerings are in the kilobuck+ range.

Bro, I don't have the Dita Project M with me now, as it was a loaner unit which I have since returned to the company. So this is based on aural memory, and no direct A/B comparisons (take it with a pinch of salt as such).

I find the Project M to be neutral bright, with slightly greater treble extension compared to the U-shaped Pilgrim. Project M may be more sibilant and fatiguing as such. Project M is one for trebleheads, but treble-sensitive might find them a bit hot in the upper frequencies. Project M sounds a bit thinner in the bass, and the timbre is a bit more metallic.

I think technicalities are very close, except maybe Project M has a bit of a smaller soundstage (will need to do A/B comparisons to verify this bit).

 

[baskingshark]

Upcoming BQEYZ Cloud.

When I spoke to the BQEYZ rep and tuner at Singapore Can Jam, I didn't really 100% get the technical jargon Chinese terms they were using.

But I surmised they were saying that other than an LCP DD, the cloud has a passive radiator - or perhaps as per this diagram, a Flexible auxillary diaphragm unit - that is installed to suppress the treble frequencies.

The Cloud unit at Can Jam was a beta unit, and that sounded neutral bright, very technical and resolving. They took feedback from the show and let's see how the final tuning will be.

https://www.facebook.com/bqeyzaudio...iH8d46ykawCSd61qyhtfCB7NMdAgryRRM9EiVhVeMStnl

 

[Singaravelan]

"Explorer"), I can tell you this IEM doesn't sound similar in note weight or the lush midrange as the Magic One.

It was a bit more balanced, more technical too, but not veering to sterility. But their rep said the tuning wasn't finalized at the show, and so who knows how the actual production unit will sound like?

Just about improved Titan S, then?!

And that bqez Cloud looks enormous! Does it fit? Made for porn stars, feel it has.

 

[Jmop]

Upcoming BQEYZ Cloud.



When I spoke to the BQEYZ rep and tuner at Singapore Can Jam, I didn't really 100% get the technical jargon Chinese terms they were using.

But I surmised they were saying that other than an LCP DD, the cloud has a passive radiator - or perhaps as per this diagram, a Flexible auxillary diaphragm unit - that is installed to suppress the treble frequencies.



The Cloud unit at Can Jam was a beta unit, and that sounded neutral bright, very technical and resolving. They took feedback from the show and let's see how the final tuning will be.

https://www.facebook.com/bqeyzaudio...iH8d46ykawCSd61qyhtfCB7NMdAgryRRM9EiVhVeMStnl

Color is right up my alley, never owned a BQEYZ. Have you heard the Winter Ultra? The graph looks fairly competitive.

 

[baskingshark]

Just about improved Titan S, then?!

And that bqez Cloud looks enormous! Does it fit? Made for porn stars, feel it has.

The beta unit I tested at Can Jam was actually small in size. Like slightly larger than those bean shaped westone/shure types.

Color is right up my alley, never owned a BQEYZ. Have you heard the Winter Ultra? The graph looks fairly competitive.

I have not tried the Ultra variant of the BQEYZ Winter. I heard the original Winter, it is neutral bright. Good technically but may be a tinge bright for treble-sensitive folks.

8 kHz is a coupler peak

 

[kaeswiss]

Bro, I don't have the Dita Project M with me now, as it was a loaner unit which I have since returned to the company. So this is based on aural memory, and no direct A/B comparisons (take it with a pinch of salt as such).

I find the Project M to be neutral bright, with slightly greater treble extension compared to the U-shaped Pilgrim. Project M may be more sibilant and fatiguing as such. Project M is one for trebleheads, but treble-sensitive might find them a bit hot in the upper frequencies. Project M sounds a bit thinner in the bass, and the timbre is a bit more metallic.

I think technicalities are very close, except maybe Project M has a bit of a smaller soundstage (will need to do A/B comparisons to verify this bit).

Thanks for the feedback and yea, it's ok if you can't A/B. Do you mind sharing the graph comparisons if you have them?

 

[Hypops]

Braille music sheets. For the hardcore (or vision impaired) who really want to feel the music.

There are apparently people in the world who swear they can "listen" to music by simply looking at record grooves.

 

[jbfps116]

There is always the M300 which has a slimmer profile and probably generates less heat also.

Do all these HiBy products come with a legitimate version of android that uses Google apps and works with Amazon music? Sorry I don’t know much about all this

 

[Singaravelan]

Do all these HiBy products come with a legitimate version of android that uses Google apps and works with Amazon music? Sorry I don’t know much about all this

yes yes HibyM300 is basically a proper android device : from whatsapp, YouTube, Google apps to everything . Just no sim card. So, it works with all streaming services. Guess it doesn't play netflix and all (DRM stuff); i haven't tried but that's what i read in the M300 thread.

I would assume the R4 is also same. I haven't used one, though.

 

[FreeWheelinAudioLuv2]

- S12 is quite bright, and doesn't really have the bass response for my tastes. It was my first IEM, it has been outclassed in the last year for sure. I do regret selling tho! Would look at the Pro if you are still leaning S12.
- Quartet - havent heard, would like to but its got lotsa treble afaik. a good option if you are looking for a more analytical listen.
- EM6L I also haven't heard, but have seen enough broken nozzles that I would maybe look at another simgot model
- MP145 is my vote. 3 tuning nozzles that actually do something, from treble to mids to bass, and generous accessories. minimal planar timbre. The only time I wouldn't recommend at least demoing it would be if you have small ears, which doesn't seem to be an issue.

Quartet is not treble heavy or analytical. The opposite.

 

[theintention]

Quartet is not treble heavy or analytical. The opposite.

Ya know, I didn’t know that there was a Quartet AND a Quintet…

 

[nikbr]

me in january: 2024 am taking a break from buying things

me now: have a new daily IEM coming along with the R4, and an entire stock of new cables.

sigh

No emoji can express just how sad but true that is.

In other news, EPZ Q5 is still such a well tempered single DD at its welcoming price.

 

[Redcarmoose]

Man you have beautiful hand writing. If someone looks at how I write they might pull the life support off haha

That is the single funniest thing I have read in this entire thread.

Hidden Bass:
As such hidden bass is normally a feature of bass Balanced Armatures. We are dealing with the transient edge, the transient bass-note-edge in a certain bass-tone replay…………..this has often been described as coming out of nowhere. Basically what it is the speed of bass response. As such this becomes simply another part of the magic of utilized Isobaric 2X 8mm DDs. Now this effect is also at times dependent on stage. Yep, this means the bass needs to be bigger and slightly separated too from outside the regular place……….again……..out of nowhere…….and offering a nice surprise when the hidden bass pounces.

https://www.head-fi.org/showcase/tansio-mirai-feat.27115/reviews#review-33721

But