music_4321
Headphoneus Supremus
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But let's not talk about the K3K3 here...
You're such a killjoy.
But let's not talk about the K3K3 here...
Nice impressions Warren. Been lurking this thread since this morning.
Althought I'd probably not like their sound, these are aluminum. I do have quite a bit of an aluminum fetish. Just ask around.
The 600 doesn't look nearly as nice as the 750 but I guess that's why we have to pay the big bucks. Aluminum + clear tips = great aesthetics (within the pic)
Hehe, a tried and true method for auditioning stuff eh?
^ Man i am hurt that you see me in that light, welp not really but i don't buy things from retail stores just to audition them then return it. I BUY FROM THE SALES FORUMS HERE AND FLIP THEM DURRR!!!Now THAT's a tried and true method. hoho Anywho the sales forum here is an amazing resource indeed and has save my butt many times. I just see it as helping out your fellow head-fier buying used and sticking it to The Man, or i am just a cheap person, you done decide.
Of course! Well, I could always use more IEM experience (MUCH MUCH MORE) if you know what I mean.But I think he's on the right track there. I just wish he'd go into more detail - especially if that is his full review.
Welp that noob iem birdie was the one who hyped those JVC FXZ200s and gave them that prestigious show award which got the hype train started on them. I am not saying these FXZ200s doesn't deserve the hype, but the initial hype was just too crazy. These are good basshead audiophile grade iems for sure but i wouldn't say they are as mind blowing amazing like others has claimed that's for sure. Anyway bad birdie bad for hyping these. haha
Don't get me wrong, I still like my UE900 in many ways. But in the end, I would not be surprised at all if these ended getting more ear time with me.
That's reassuring to hear that you would pick these RHA over the UE900s, though i have never heard anything from UE they sure ain't cheap and is highly regarded in the audiophile world so.... good to know where you stand.
Oh nos, the full review is gonna be flowery prose OVA' LOAD!!!j/k..... not really. I might steal some of your writing style for future write-ups, MAYBE.Can't wait for the full review, but do take your time with it though, no need to rush a good thang.
Yeppp i currently own RHA MA350s and they sound great indeed esp. for their low price. Their sound is easily on the upper $80s in value and is a lot better sounding than a lot of the budget-fi gears i have tried that's for sure. Oh that note since you have heard RHAs lower end models, how would you describe that timbre of these MA750s??? Cuz the MA350 tend to have a colder and artificial/ analytical-esque sound signature. Despite their pretty big and deep bass presence the MA350 does not sound all that natural to me in their presentation that's for sure.
SO how does the sound signature of these MA750s compare to the MA350s???
Hehe, a tried and true method for auditioning stuff eh?I think that $129 for the MA750i is a steal. An IEM with machined aluminum throughout, even in the y-splits and plugs, should cost way more than this.
It's actually stainless steel, which is even better ("the MA750i is constructed from individually machined stainless steel components").
Very nice, concise and clear impressions.
My only concern, though, is the 25dB dip (!) from 7.5k all the way to ~15K. I think that may be a bit too polite.
Welp that noob iem birdie was the one who hyped those JVC FXZ200s and gave them that prestigious show award which got the hype train started on them. I am not saying these FXZ200s doesn't deserve the hype, but the initial hype was just too crazy. These are good basshead audiophile grade iems for sure but i wouldn't say they are as mind blowing amazing like others has claimed that's for sure. Anyway bad birdie bad for hyping these. haha
Wait, which IEM birdie are we talking about? I thought we were talking about that Tuaw review that was posted? Lemme know if I'm mistaken.
My only concern, though, is the 25dB dip (!) from 7.5k all the way to ~15K. I think that may be a bit too polite
Wait, what are we talking about? Do you mean the manufacturer supplied graph? I always take those with a grain of salt for obvious reasons, so much so that I tend to ignore them now. I can say this though... if that was how they chose to avoid sibilance, it worked.
Gotta love all those FR charts — pick your favourite K3003 graph (note not only where the dips and peaks 'appear to be' in each one but the dB differences):
I believe Mr sfwalcer is referring to Mr Currawong, whose FXZ200 comments had a lot to do with some of the worst hype I've ever seen in my 5 years as a HF'er.
Oh, believe me, I take manufacturers' claims with a large—or make that a HUGE—grain of salt... but still... you yourself even claimed RHA are (apparently) taking our feedback seriously which would be great if true, so while I take their graph with a pinch of salt, it may still be fairly close to the real thing. What's interesting to me (or more telling, if you like, and not in a good way), though, is the scaling, which makes the MA750 seem pretty flat up to 7.5k, and because of said scaling the HUGE dip above 7.5 Khz doesn't look so severe when, in actual fact, it actually is, hence my concern. The ER4S, as you well know, is much flatter in that region. Do you have issues with the ER4S in that area?
I'm very tempted to order the MA750s (the non-i version), if only because of a personal Scottish / Glasgow connection (great to see a British company, btw, doing something seemingly very, very decent in the world of IEMs), with apparent great build quality, a 3-year warranty and a cable-over-the ear fit for an £80-£90 product.
Welp that noob iem birdie was the one who hyped those JVC FXZ200s and gave them that prestigious show award which got the hype train started on them. I am not saying these FXZ200s doesn't deserve the hype, but the initial hype was just too crazy. These are good basshead audiophile grade iems for sure but i wouldn't say they are as mind blowing amazing like others has claimed that's for sure. Anyway bad birdie bad for hyping these. haha
If we are talking about that review, then I have no idea what his level of experience is. Can't say anything one way or the other about that. But I can tell you that someone over there can't Photoshop to save their own life:
I can't help it if people get unreasonably crazy about stuff I think is good, or very good. In the end, I bought a pair (from a regular store) and found they had too much bass for the music I liked and sold them. I'm pretty sure I pointed out that they have a LOT of bass and that their sound signature is very JVC in that manner. I ended up spending the next year trying to understand why it was some recent IEMs had impressed me so much. The answer was: They don't have the bad phase issues a lot of IEMs have that make especially percussion sound dead. I didn't realise this was the issue until Jerry Harvey explained it to me. More manufacturers are paying attention to this so it isn't so bad.
The new Shures are similar in that they sound excellent, but I wouldn't buy them, as without hearing the other filters, they have too much bass for my tastes. However, if I go to the show this year and, yet again, I listen to some headphones or IEMs which impress me so much that everything afterwards sounds awful, even Stax gear, then there has to be a reason for that. If the technology in them is impressive (ie: not just a bunch of regular drivers shoved in yet another generic IEM) and the company sends the actual engineers to the show (like Sony and unlike another extremely famous manufacturer who sends only their junior sales staff) then that will only add to the positive impressions.
Can you compare the 600 with the 350/450? Is the 600 bassier?
Welp that noob iem birdie was the one who hyped those JVC FXZ200s and gave them that prestigious show award which got the hype train started on them. I am not saying these FXZ200s doesn't deserve the hype, but the initial hype was just too crazy. These are good basshead audiophile grade iems for sure but i wouldn't say they are as mind blowing amazing like others has claimed that's for sure. Anyway bad birdie bad for hyping these. haha
Wait, which IEM birdie are we talking about? I thought we were talking about that Tuaw review that was posted? Lemme know if I'm mistaken.
I believe Mr sfwalcer is referring to Mr Currawong, whose FXZ200 comments had a lot to do with some of the worst hype I've ever seen in my 5 years as a HF'er.
My only concern, though, is the 25dB dip (!) from 7.5k all the way to ~15K. I think that may be a bit too polite
Wait, what are we talking about? Do you mean the manufacturer supplied graph? I always take those with a grain of salt for obvious reasons, so much so that I tend to ignore them now. I can say this though... if that was how they chose to avoid sibilance, it worked.
Oh, believe me, I take manufacturers' claims with a large—or make that a HUGE—grain of salt... but still... you yourself even claimed RHA are (apparently) taking our feedback seriously which would be great if true, so while I take their graph with a pinch of salt, it may still be fairly close to the real thing. What's interesting to me (or more telling, if you like, and not in a good way), though, is the scaling, which makes the MA750 seem pretty flat up to 7.5k, and because of said scaling the HUGE dip above 7.5 Khz doesn't look so severe when, in actual fact, it actually is, hence my concern. The ER4S, as you well know, is much flatter in that region. Do you have issues with the ER4S in that area?
I'm very tempted to order the MA750s (the non-i version), if only because of a personal Scottish / Glasgow connection (great to see a British company, btw, doing something seemingly very, very decent in the world of IEMs), with apparent great build quality, a 3-year warranty and a cable-over-the ear fit for an £80-£90 product.
@Warren
Thanks for the RHA comparos meng, so judging by those impressions is it safe to say that the MA350 and the MA750 both share a very similar "house sound"???
Actually, now that I think about it, the result of a sordid and unholy union between an MA750i and RE-400 (for just under $200) would be a KILLER product. I'd wrap my ears around that in a heartbeat.
Welp that noob iem birdie was the one who hyped those JVC FXZ200s and gave them that prestigious show award which got the hype train started on them. I am not saying these FXZ200s doesn't deserve the hype, but the initial hype was just too crazy. These are good basshead audiophile grade iems for sure but i wouldn't say they are as mind blowing amazing like others has claimed that's for sure. Anyway bad birdie bad for hyping these. haha
I can't help it if people get unreasonably crazy about stuff I think is good, or very good. In the end, I bought a pair (from a regular store) and found they had too much bass for the music I liked and sold them. I'm pretty sure I pointed out that they have a LOT of bass and that their sound signature is very JVC in that manner. I ended up spending the next year trying to understand why it was some recent IEMs had impressed me so much. The answer was: They don't have the bad phase issues a lot of IEMs have that make especially percussion sound dead. I didn't realise this was the issue until Jerry Harvey explained it to me. More manufacturers are paying attention to this so it isn't so bad.
The new Shures are similar in that they sound excellent, but I wouldn't buy them, as without hearing the other filters, they have too much bass for my tastes. However, if I go to the show this year and, yet again, I listen to some headphones or IEMs which impress me so much that everything afterwards sounds awful, even Stax gear, then there has to be a reason for that. If the technology in them is impressive (ie: not just a bunch of regular drivers shoved in yet another generic IEM) and the company sends the actual engineers to the show (like Sony and unlike another extremely famous manufacturer who sends only their junior sales staff) then that will only add to the positive impressions.
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But I can tell you that someone over there can't Photoshop to save their own life:
What are you talking about? I couldn't have done it better myself!
Anywho enough of this OT stuff, lets just hope that these RHAs really are as great as warren says they are so this hype train will blast off to mars.
Actually, now that I think about it, the result of a sordid and unholy union between an MA750i and RE-400 (for just under $200) would be a KILLER product. I'd wrap my ears around that in a heartbeat.
Or, a "value pack" of both for $200 would make a great stocking stuffer!
Oh, believe me, I take manufacturers' claims with a large—or make that a HUGE—grain of salt... but still... you yourself even claimed RHA are (apparently) taking our feedback seriously which would be great if true, so while I take their graph with a pinch of salt, it may still be fairly close to the real thing. What's interesting to me (or more telling, if you like, and not in a good way), though, is the scaling, which makes the MA750 seem pretty flat up to 7.5k, and because of said scaling the HUGE dip above 7.5 Khz doesn't look so severe when, in actual fact, it actually is, hence my concern. The ER4S, as you well know, is much flatter in that region. Do you have issues with the ER4S in that area?
Okay, I see what you mean. In that case, yes I can see how some would find it overly polite or somewhat laid back in that region. Or to put it another way, I would not be surprised if people indicated that they heard a slight veil or lack of immediacy in that region. I'm rather fine with it - which is rather surprising to me given what a fan of the GR8 and UE700 I am. To put it in comparative terms, I would say that Beyer (DT880) fans should find it too dark for their tastes, while HD 650 fans would balk at the treble response. I'm running Shigeto's new album through it right now - which tends to be more airy and atmospheric as far as electronic fare goes - and I'm not offended by the presentation.
RHA does seem to care quite a bit about what we think though. I remember receiving a pair of MA150s, and immediately thinking "OMG DAT BASS" when I heard it. That's what I ended up reporting here, and they seemed quite discontent with that assessment. Hey, I gotta call it like I hear it. That prompted them to refine it and introduce a running line change, which I then documented here: http://www.head-fi.org/t/671817/update-rha-has-released-a-new-revision-of-their-ma150-iem
I wouldn't say that I have any major issues with the ER-4 series in that region, no. Though, I must admit, I do excuse much of the ER-4 simply because it is such a unique signature, and the unit does what it intends to do so well. When I don either the ER-4S or ER-4PT, I more or less mentally prepare myself for the flatness to come.
(Just to point something out, Currawong may have raised interest about the FXZ phones, but it was the hype king Dsnuts who made them out to be unbelievably good.)
Thanks for the clarification!
(Just to point something out, Currawong may have raised interest about the FXZ phones, but it was the hype king Dsnuts who made them out to be unbelievably good.)
See, now it all makes sense!