I'm curious if you heard it, or have gone on the word of mouth. Having both amps, I'm sure you'll be happy with the upgrade. Congrats.
All on word of mouth. I like the LC but I like open wide soundstage which the LC lacks.
I'm curious if you heard it, or have gone on the word of mouth. Having both amps, I'm sure you'll be happy with the upgrade. Congrats.
I'm curious if you heard it, or have gone on the word of mouth. Having both amps, I'm sure you'll be happy with the upgrade. Congrats.
All on word of mouth. I like the LC but I like open wide soundstage which the LC lacks.
Another LC owner switching over to the Microzotl 2.0.
Just placed an order for Microzotl 2.0 Deluxe (tempted to go stock but decided to upgrade the power supply) from Urban HiFi. I was hoping for free shipping but I guess they don't offer it.
I don't know what the Liquid Carbon sounds like because I've never heard it, but people (like doctorjazz) have said good things about it. So the following prediction is based solely on my experience with the MZ2, and not how it compares with the Liquid Carbon, which I can't speak to. (Note also that I still have the stock power supply, not the upgrade, which everyone has said is better.)
Prediction: Once you hear how phenomenal the MZ2 sounds, you won't care that you had to pay for the shipping.
Just came over from the Elise thread to read the stink up on our amps. I must say it was very unprofessional from the mojo man.
Congrats on the Massdrop. I'm sure it will help the Zotl in the marketing scheme. After that, the wonderful product will do the rest.
Regards
I placed an order urban hifi but it seems it's also on Massdrop. Are the upgraded tubes and upgraded power supply (LTA, LPS) on Massdrop version significantly better? It seems you get more for less on Massdrop's Microzotl 2.
We also chose to use NOS 6201 tubes, a variation of the 12AT7, due to positive feedback regarding that tube by customers.
6201 is equivalent to 12AT7 = same in MicroZOTL2 - what's new?
http://tungsol.com/tungsol/html/12at7-tung-sol.html
I replied to your email, but thought I'd reply here as well. The "Massdrop version" is actually an introduction of a new product, the MZ2-S, which is very similar to the MicroZOTL2 but is not an interchangeable version due to the circuitry being different. We did a Massdrop exclusive release at a discount because we usually have introductory sales for our products, and were excited to work on something with Massdrop. After today (it's very early Tuesday where I am), you will not be able to find an MZ2-S for under the retail of $1845. As soon as we ship the Massdrop units, sales for the new amp will be available on the LTA website.
The MZ2-S uses 12SN7 tubes instead of 6SN7 tubes. The sound signature is essentially identical (if one were to have the same company make a tube of the same quality, the 6SN7 version would sound the same as the 12SN7), but the greater availability of certain NOS 12SN7s allows us to use high-quality NOS tubes without raising the price significantly. We also chose to use NOS 6201 tubes, a variation of the 12AT7, due to positive feedback regarding that tube by customers. We envisioned the MZ2-S as a "pre-rolled" amp that is ideal for people who are interested in NOS tubes and rolling tubes but don't know where to start and don't necessarily want to invest money in that uncertain and slippery slope. Thinking about it as a real endgame amp at its price-point, we also decided to upgrade the power supply where we could without needing a new chassis.
The advantages of the MZ2-S is that we've done the research and the listening tests and chosen NOS tubes that we think work very well in the amp, and it comes with the upgraded power supply. The possible disadvantage is that it only comes in one color, it will only be available with the closed-circuit jack (non-locking, disconnects the other outputs when headphones are plugged in), there are fewer varieties of 12SN7s than 6SN7s if you do want to get creative, and, relatedly, you won't be able to use your possibly already existing collection of great 6SN7 tubes with it. We are also only offering the MZ2-S in the $1845 version, there is no option for the standard power supply as there is for the $1100 model of the MicroZOTL2.
We believe there is an appeal to both the MicroZOTL2 and the MZ2-S. We still think the current-production Tung-sols sound great in the amp. We don't offer more options for the MZ2-S as it would have to be priced higher, as the four great guys who make all of our products wouldn't be able to streamline its production, and we wanted to offer it as reasonably-priced as possible.
I hope that clears up any confusion regarding the "Massdrop version" and the MicroZOTL2 and the MZ2-S The MZ2-S might need its own thread, but I don't decide those things, and maybe it can coexist here happily.
I think Mark's move of the transparency from the front to the top was a significant improvement in visual association. 50hz is no problem, and we'll send you a pre-flicked power supply.
Compared to the current-production Tung-sols, the NOS tubes give treble that is a bit more refined and slightly less bright, and more heft is felt in the bass. Overall we found that after listening for a while there was just a bit more fullness to the sound, and the upgraded power supply contributes to clarity and the ever-blackening background (what is blacker than black?). You can read about others' impressions after using NOS 6SN7s, as it will be a similar effect.