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Fantastic! Thanks for double checking
Inching closer to the iPad purchase now
Inching closer to the iPad purchase now
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i just picked up a Cypher Labs Algorhythm Solo Original and ALO SXC 30 pin to usb and alo mini to mini sxc Cable Set. i hope this setup doesnt dissapoint. i am using this in conjuction with my alo audio rx mk3,ipod touch 3g, westone w4r/BTGAUDIO Cable.
i havent really read anything that compares the original wolfson clas to the new akm CLAS. you would think now that the new clas uses the akm it would tend to sound a little more like the hpp1?
The new clas sounds nothing like the hpp1 to me. Hpp1 is more agressive and has better instrument separation/depth but doesn't have as balanced of a sound.
I can do that for you right now. What kind of comparison do you want? Fair or unfair? (where Fair is using single ended IC for both old and new CLAS to the Rx Mk3 amp, and unfair is where the new CLAS uses balanced IC, but old CLAS uses single ended).
Edit: Brief impressions
CLAS -dB 2.0Vrms balanced vs Original CLAS Single Ended to Rx Mk3
Both with Single ended Fitear MH335DW
- dB seems to have a greater depth perception.
- dB sounds smoother in the highs.
- Original seems to have a deeper bass impact
- Original feels more anxious or agressive, whereas the dB seems to be more "chill"
CLAS -dB 2.0Vrms Single Ended vs Original CLAS Single Ended to Rx Mk3
Both with Single ended Fitear MH335DW
- dB's soundstage not as wide/deep as was in balanced. Comparable to the original
- Original maintains it's bass impact
- Original still feels to be more agressive than the dB
2nd Edit:
The original CLAS has more slam than the -dB. I can't decide if it's a good thing or not. For some of the jazzy stuff I listen to, I feel it's kinda too agressive and coarse. However I can imagine it's advantage for faster genre.
i.e. the original CLAS is far from its death bed yet.
I can do that for you right now. What kind of comparison do you want? Fair or unfair? (where Fair is using single ended IC for both old and new CLAS to the Rx Mk3 amp, and unfair is where the new CLAS uses balanced IC, but old CLAS uses single ended).
Edit: Brief impressions
CLAS -dB 2.0Vrms balanced vs Original CLAS Single Ended to Rx Mk3
Both with Single ended Fitear MH335DW
- dB seems to have a greater depth perception.
- dB sounds smoother in the highs.
- Original seems to have a deeper bass impact
- Original feels more anxious or agressive, whereas the dB seems to be more "chill"
CLAS -dB 2.0Vrms Single Ended vs Original CLAS Single Ended to Rx Mk3
Both with Single ended Fitear MH335DW
- dB's soundstage not as wide/deep as was in balanced. Comparable to the original
- Original maintains it's bass impact
- Original still feels to be more agressive than the dB
2nd Edit:
The original CLAS has more slam than the -dB. I can't decide if it's a good thing or not. For some of the jazzy stuff I listen to, I feel it's kinda too agressive and coarse. However I can imagine it's advantage for faster genre.
i.e. the original CLAS is far from its death bed yet.
For those of you who moved from the 1.69Vrms to 2.0Vrms, aside from a volume increase (and the clean up of noise), do you feel the an improvement in mid-bass filling in and overall soundstage/imaging (giving a fuller sound)?
I have all 3x -dBs (1.2Vrms, 1.69Vrms, 2.0Vrms) side-by-side and it seems the latest seems to improve in sound quality too. I talked to David @ Cypherlabs and he mentioned that he did improve the sonics too (as opposed of 1.2Vrms -> 1.69Vrms, it was more just volume increase).
Do you feel the Newer Clas MIMIC the fostex hpp1 more or less now that they are using the same brand dac chips? vs now that the new clas have the akm, your impressions of the new -db seem to mimic that of alot of peoples impressions of the hp-p1, the more chill or laid back style in sound. and the lack of aggressiveness. definitly seems like they are more simular now then before.
You never know, you may end up liking it. Over the past year I found my taste changing from raw grunt power to something with a touch more finesse & class (no pun intended).
The raw power does grab my initial attention more at the start but after extended listening I appreciate the finer DACs more as they express subtleties with a finer resolution. Don't discredit the sissy DACs yet.