[musicday]

hi musicday,  what about the specific points i mention in the 2 posts

Hi, if you are worried that the battery will run out while listening,if you are somewhere near a plug just keep it connected.Keep in mind that battery life once fully charged varies depending on the music format you are listening and resolution and the volume your headphones need in order to achieve a normal listening level.
Hope this makes sense.

 

[jlbrach]

   
Me too. In the back of my mind, though, I'm keeping the return policy in my back pocket.
 
My caveat here is that this will be the first speakers I've utilized prior to 1983, when I got my first Sony Walkman. From then on I had been listening the headphones every since. Even confronted with a ton of "great" multi-ways I've heard over the years, and a slew of them since I've taken my audiophile hobby up a few hundred notches, I always stuck with my headphones. For some reason, though, even after buying the Focal Utopias, the headphone experience is losing its luster. Maybe because I feel that I have reached the apex of headphone listening and it doesn't seem as great as I thought it would be. It's like the person you've fantasied making love to, only to get the chance, but the reality was never as good the fantasy. You become a little bummed.
 
I mean, that's life, right? We're all looking for our next high.

I have gone in the opposite direction,I have always listened through loudspeakers and have a high end system but in recent times I find myself listening through HP's since i got the Dave

 

[TSAVJason]

thanks jason,

would the loss be minimal even if used on high volume for 8 hours say as an example.

also if the battery loss is minimal how many times could you repeat the cycle of listening whilst charging without charging afterwards for next use(assuming you started with a near full battery)// how many of these cycles just described until you have to charge hugo properly using the charger.

i hope that makes sense. cheers mk

So we are clear, if used during charge mode there is nearly no loss at all. At high output use it has a little battery loss but no performance loss. So as far as battery power loss it is so minimal that it's not a concern. Of course when you are not charging it will lose power as all battery powered devices do.

 

[musickid]

hoping to buy hugo tomorrow

 

[jamato8]

  thanks jason,
 
would the loss be minimal even if used on high volume for 8 hours say as an example.
 
also if the battery loss is minimal how many times could you repeat the cycle of listening whilst charging without charging afterwards for next use(assuming you started with a near full battery)// how many of these cycles just described until you have to charge hugo properly using the charger.
 
i hope that makes sense. cheers mk

If the Hugo has 8 hours of use per charge and you use it for 2 hours, you would have about 6 hours left. A full cycle is a discharge and recharge. A 20% discharge is 20% of a cycle. So if a battery has 500 or a  1000 cycle life, you can calculate from there. I have some batteries that are 8 years old and they are in excellent condition. I prefer to never fully discharge a battery but charge after use and end up with batteries that last a long time unless the battery faults in some way. I have a couple of amps from RSA that are 8 years old and charge and last like new. 
 
I also use an adapter with a 2amp or more output. The amp or dac will only use what it needs but that way you are giving as much current as needed rather than less and taking longer to charge. 

 

[Triode User]

 
If the Hugo has 8 hours of use per charge and you use it for 2 hours, you would have about 6 hours left. A full cycle is a discharge and recharge. A 20% discharge is 20% of a cycle. So if a battery has 500 or a  1000 cycle life, you can calculate from there. I have some batteries that are 8 years old and they are in excellent condition. I prefer to never fully discharge a battery but charge after use and end up with batteries that last a long time unless the battery faults in some way. I have a couple of amps from RSA that are 8 years old and charge and last like new. 

I don't think that was the question he was asking. However, I couldn't quite work out exactly what he did want to know.

 

[EVOLVIST]

  I have gone in the opposite direction,I have always listened through loudspeakers and have a high end system but in recent times I find myself listening through HP's since i got the Dave

 
Well, I certainly trust your ears, Jon. Me, I think I've fallen out of love with cans after 34 years. To put that in perspective, I was 10-years old in 1983 when I got a Sony Walkman for my birthday. Back then it was Quite Riot's Mental Health, Def Leppard Pyromania, David Bowie Let's Dance, Motley Crue Shout at the Devil, and Billy Idol Rebel Yell.
 
Wow, times have changed, but they haven't. Know what I mean?

 

[musickid]

thanks jama

 

[TSAVJason]

hi jason youve just raised the point ive been trying to get an answer for:  starting on a full charge then playing whilst charging:


nearly no loss 


 At high output use it has a little battery loss


i want to know considering the two highlighted points above// how many cycles of playing whilst charging starting on full charge till you have to do a proper charge of the hugo. ie how many of these little losses in battery power constitute a significant enough power loss to warrant a proper charge.

hoping to buy hugo tomorrow

On this battery type it would be appreciable. I have no way of answering with an exact number since it is a little about how it's used. I personally wouldn't worry about it. Get your Hugo and enjoy it. I don't think we've ever had a customer unhappy with their purchase of a Hugo but I can recall quite a few that call or wrote to let me know how much they loved it.

 

[jamato8]

 
I don't think that was the question he was asking. However, I couldn't quite work out exactly what he did want to know.

I understand now. Wow, that would be hard to determine. So the charge discharge as it is being used and hooked up to a charger. I don't think there would be much detriment to the battery and when charged and not used, to unplug often is better than just leaving plugged in all the time keeping it fully charged/topped off. But different battery chemistries change how they are used some. 

 

[musickid]

what i mean is after using hugo in the manner described (playing and charging starting with a 100% battery so in theory no battery loss but in practice a very small battery loss) then i turn hugo off and disconnect from charger/// how many cycles can i use hugo like this till i have to do a proper charge. (ie roughly how many of these very small battery drains would add up so that i have to do a real charge.) apologies im trying to get boring stuff out the way hoping to buy hugo tomorrow

 

[jamato8]

  what i mean is after using hugo in the manner described (playing and charging starting with a 100% battery so in theory no battery loss but in practice a very small battery loss) then i turn hugo off and disconnect from charger/// how many cycles can i use hugo like this till i have to do a proper charge. (ie roughly how many of these very small battery drains would add up so that i have to do a real charge.) apologies im trying to get boring stuff out the way hoping to buy hugo tomorrow

That is what I tried to state in a previous post. It depends upon how much you drain it, the percentage. But the less cycles the longer the battery will last. I would just use the Hugo and not worry. I have done that since I got it when it first came out and never had a problem and it still holds a normal charge. 

 

[Light - Man]

Musickid, the Hugo is a luxury and it would be counter productive to be overly concerned about battery life because in the everyday world it is much more likely that someone could drop the Hugo, etc. 

 
It is likely that the price of the Hugo will drop when the Hugo 2 becomes available and there should be lots of the older version available when all the fat cats from around the world buy the latest version.

 

[musickid]

hi lightman,
 
hugo 2 is beyond my means. hugo is on great offer and im auditioning and hoping to buy tomorrow. managing the way hugo is operated is central to my considerations. could you have a look at my posts on this page and get back to me. till now people are really helping but no one has been able to answer my query

 

[TSAVJason]

Musickid, the Hugo is a luxury and it would be counter productive to be overly concerned about battery life because in the everyday world it is much more likely that someone could drop the Hugo, etc. 

It is likely that the price of the Hugo will drop when the Hugo 2 becomes available and there should be lots of the older version available when all the fat cats from around the world buy the latest version.

Hey! I resemble that remark hahahaha