[crabdog]

5BA less than $180 USD
Look what I found on AliExpress
http://s.aliexpress.com/yauY3EB3

Ha funny I was just about to post that! Looks really nice.

 

[kimD]

Ha funny I was just about to post that! Looks really nice.

If wanna play around more musicals should consider this.
IMO bass wise would be after having it then feedback later.
Also much affordable than Rose

 

[crabdog]

If wanna play around more musicals should consider this.
IMO bass wise would be after having it then feedback later.
Also much affordable than Rose

Ya but AK earphone still untested here at headfi.

 

[kimD]

Ya but AK earphone still untested here at headfi.

I'd had bought one AK custom 2+1 black colour one.
Still pending for status update yet, just stuck at half way.
I hope it can having on hand soon

 

[MLTKSHHBT]

Is the Rose thread dying off? I need some inputs on BR5...

 

[anticute]

  I think I'm getting about to my break point, which the last one I think was close to a year.  I know I'd like a dap with balanced out sometime soon, and might try a few more inexpensive IEMs, like possibly the **** 4in1, most likely picking up an inexpensive balanced cable for it if I do, too.  I have my current end-game headphone and IEM, as well as earbud, as well as dac/amp, so just a piece or two to go before I have everything I could want.  Then I just take off for awhile and come back after a long break and see what's new.
 
On a more related note, considering how awesome the Chinese/Asian market is with various differing types of earphones and other things, is anyone aware of any promising earclips?  I know there's always the Yuin earclips, assuming those are still acquirable, but I'm curious if anything else has come up, or if it's truly a dead format for this hobby.

Which are your endgame headphones, IEM and earbuds?

 

[Saoshyant]

Apparently I am a lover of Sennheiser, because for me those are the HD700 and IE800.  For the earbud, I love my Rose Mojito.

 

[MLTKSHHBT]

Apparently I am a lover of Sennheiser, because for me those are the HD700 and IE800.  For the earbud, I love my Rose Mojito.

Do you find the mojito on the bright side? The seller recommends br5 as it's specifically designed for vocal which is what am looking for.

 

[Saoshyant]

@MLTKSHHBT I can see how it'd be too bright for some, but I'm not treble sensitive, so I'm not a good judge.  For earbuds there are several really impressive vocal-based options, but I'm unfortunately not all that aware of the decent vocal-based IEMs.  The Rose Pudding is fairly decent for vocals, but is outshined by more vocal-focused earbuds like the Shozy Cygnus or Crow Audio Signature Edition.  At least to me, I don't get as lifelike a presentation of female vocals compared to those two, but it is not veiled which can be fairly common these days for mids due to the preference by many for a more V shaped presentation.  Then again, this is also a $300+ IEM, so I'd hope the vocals wouldn't suffer unless of course the goal of the tuning was to produce something quite V shaped.

 

[1clearhead]

 

Clearhead , how do I wake up the bass on Isk HD 9999 ? the Xduoo X3 is enough? In my notebook not cool the wheel Isk , the sound is very low and thin.

 
Make sure you have the thicker pads on place and use the straight cables instead of the curled ones. The straight cables are the ones made for professional use and enhances the bass/sub-bass region.

 

[audio123]

anyone tried rose br5? 5 ba drivers

 

[MuZo2]

  anyone tried rose br5? 5 ba drivers

BR5 is different than BA5?
 

  I'm really enjoying the Pudding. The Ba5 has grown on me as well. Overall, I am very happy with these Rose products. The Ba5 sounds best out of the mojo IMO. It produces a very smooth sound, and it opens it up a bit. 

  I feel the LCD-2 mids are warmer. I haven't listened to them recently though so I can't do a direct comparison. For the BA5, I feel the mids are slightly warm and the bass is flat. Female voice is highlighted slightly more than male, but overall vocals are highlighted. I prefer listening to slower acoustic or pop music with these than any other genres. 

 

[audio123]

Isnt it rose br5 ?

 

[robervaul]

@1clearhead @CoiL How is the MOD MAN in hlsx-808 ?

 

[CoiL]

 

Can anyone compare the vivo xe800 and sender 4in1? How comfortable are they? Also, are there fake vivos because the price varies a lot on aliexpress.

 
The XE800 are more compatible with the BK50, while the BK50's are just a little more vivid, but for the XE800's they do everything right for a dynamic of its caliber, which carries plenty of details. The 4in1's, in the other hand, is a little more airy and transparent and is a step-up in comparison.

  Anyone got the taobao link of **** 4in1. How is it compared to HLSX-808, which one is more suitable for rock metal gernes ?
@1clearhead have you got any ?

 
The 808's does rock metal and guitar or related string instruments nicely, while the 4in1's really do jazz, or violin with nice results, as well.

Quote:

  **** 4in1 (by **** AUDIO)
 
Okay, so finally the **** 4in1 were burned-in for over 100 hours plus and I am more than confident that much of its’ sound signature won’t probably change from this point.
 
Before I start, I would like to say that I have no affiliation and have any business relationship other than the current in-ear earphones I actually bought directly from **** at his taobao store for such a low price.....and “I actually bought two” –piano black and pearl grey!
 
About the **** 4in1:
There are two types, which one can choose from; the piano black or the pearl grey. They come with detachable wires, carry case, tie/shirt clip, and extra ear tips that are all packaged in one nice box. One would think to pay a hefty price to own these, but my purchase came out to be only 228 RMB with free shipping (equivalent to $34 US dollars).
 
 

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The Frequency Response is based according to the SPECS on ****'s homepage website on taobao and other websites that carry similar information:
 
Sensitivity: 108dB / mW
Impedance: 32Ω
Frequency range: 10-350000Hz
Cable length: 1.2
Brand: ****
Model: 4in1
Wires: Detachable MMCX
DD: Beryllium
BA: Knowles 30042
Color: Piano black and Pearl Grey
 
Frequency Graph according to ****
 

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You can find them in taobao, aliexpress, or other respected online stores.
Here are a few links…..
 
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.16.SPJIk7&id=536406272968&ns=1&abbucket=4#detail
 
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2016-****-4in1-In-Ear-Earphone-Dynamic-BA-Hybrid-Drive-Unit-DIY-DJ-Earphone-HIFI-Headset/32704437923.html?spm=2114.30010308.3.1.oEP4RB&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_8,searchweb201602_5_10057_10056_10055_10049_10017_10059_10058_10060_9999_10061_10062_10064,searchweb201603_8&btsid=d265f58c-ce1d-40e2-be3c-6911308f591d
 
SOUND SIGNATURE:
With "default tips" on the **** 4in1’s:
The 4in1’s produce a mildly V-shaped signature that is sure to please with a nice sub-bass impact and a very open and clean mid to high-end treble response that emanates even micro-details.
 
With "secondary tips" provided by **** for the 4in1’s: 
The sound signature is more balanced with better vocals and midrange while maintaining excellent clarity throughout the overall range.
 
 

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TUNING:
According to **** these are tuned to play with hi-end resolution and acoustics and by far they seem to portray that factor. The sound quality itself, definitely seem to sound way beyond their price point and then some.
 
BUILD QUALITY:
To my surprise, the 4in1’s seems to be built like a tank of armor. On pictures they seem small and compact, but in reality they are a little heavy and slightly bigger. For me, the tank-like armor with the little added weight makes them feel like I spent a lot of money on them. A BIG plus, if you ask me! For others that are sport enthusiast, the weight might be a little more trouble-some for jogging, outdoor sports, or even the gym. So, I’d say use these according to what best fits your needs.
 
REVIEW CONTENT:
The review will consist of the **** 4in1, HLSX-BK50 and HLSX-808 with other quick comparisons that include the AKG K3003, K3003 by **** and the DUNU DN2000, as well. On my review, we’re going to focus on 3 hybrids plus other quick comparisons as mentioned above. So, keep in mind, it’s all about preferences. We’re talking about (1) **** 4in1 with default and with secondary tips provided by ****, (2) HLSX-BK50 with small AUVIO silicone tips with the red inner bore, (3) and HLSX-808 mod version as instructed by the one they call MOD MAN -'CoiL'.
 
 

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**** 4in1  VS  HLSX-BK50  VS  HLSX-808:
 
BASS:
The bass on the **** 4in1 has got to be some of the best in the market, but not just for quantity, but for the quality and the detail within. The beryllium DD’s probably makes a good emphasis of great bass without sacrificing clarity. They are just beautifully detailed with bass, especially sub-bass. So far, these are my favorite in this area. Now, with the BK50 the bass is sweet, but smoother and with plenty of sub-bass when called for. The 808's has more of a bass to mid-bass that compliments very well with the crisp details it provides on the rest of its sound signature.
 
MIDRANGE:
The BK50 really shines in this area for both male and especially the female artist, which sounds realistic and refreshing and can really entertain our ears to a full vocal type concert with breathe taking accuracy. For the 4in1’s, the midrange is clear and detailed for both male and female and has great transparency, but not as forward as the BK50, but details are there and consistent, which is a big plus. While, with the 808 (mods) it adds a crisp signature where guitar plucking never sounded so good and vocals for the male artist are nicely emphasized!
 
TREBLE:
With details and micro-details and not just bass alone is where the 4in1 reigns once again. It does very well maintaining plenty of details on top all the way down towards midrange vocal range that gives a luscious, but brilliant response in which you’ll never miss a “chime”. They do very well in maintaining transparency without ever intruding a harsh and sibilant signature -wow! Now, with the BK50, I can pick-up brilliant details and I can even pick-up micro-details at times while still having a smooth and open atmospheric sound signature. The 808 (mods) carries clean and clear treble with crisp hi-end details for those that like a little sizzle in their signature.
 
SOUNDSTAGE:
The BK50 has a very wide soundstage with precision, accuracy and plenty of details. They are well balanced with a slight emphasis in sub-bass and vocals giving you great resolution throughout the whole spectrum. They can put on smile on any one that’s interested in their signature and style and even the most enthusiast audio junkie, for that matter. While, with the 4in1’s, they are just as good and do better with instrument separation with plenty of detail, imaging, clarity, and great depth, for that matter. What I get from the 808 (mods) is a close combination of both discriptive signatures following closely by a hair behind both the BK50 and the 4in1’s and leaning towards a crisp-like signature with great emphasis on acoustical music that personally I enjoy for hours at a time.
 
OTHER COMPARISONS:
 
Comparisons with AKG K3003, K3003 by ****, and DUNU DN2000:
Clarity is on par with the AKG K3003, K3003 by ****, and DUNU DN2000, but bass, especially sub-bass notes on the 4in1 are slightly better, better detailed with greater depth. The upper midrange and treble are more transparent and less harsh and sibilant than all three and performs micro-details effortlessly. Notably, the lower midrange on the 4in1’s seems to sound less congested, especially when the music gets too busy with different instruments -A BIG plus! And finally, the advantage the 4in1 has over all three are the detachable wires, which one can replace, enhance, or even stash away for safe keeping!
 
FINAL ANALYSIS:
Finally, I would like to say that **** did a great job putting these together for the budget seeking consumer like you and I. These would have been the perfect IEM for that perfect low price, but he missed out in one thing for those that crave for perfection. He did not add any tuning nozzles to these, therefore, relying on tip-swapping for added bass, midrange, or treble is more in anyone’s preference, to say the least.
 
CONCLUSION:
In this latest review, this is how it currently stands with the **** being my current favorite slightly over the BK50’s and the 808's thereafter.....
 
FROM FAVORITE TO LEAST:
**** 4in1 (default tips/secondary tips)
HLSX-BK50 (with aftermarket small AUVIO silicone tips with red inner bore)
HLSX-808 (mod)
Thank you note:  

Special thanks go to ‘crabdog’ for this incredible find! I was able to stop two purchases that would have set me back some change!
And, another special thanks goes to “MOD MAN” –‘CoiL’ for the enhancement of my 808’s, which I treasure even more today!
 
 
This review is according to my preference and ears. Others may differ or be opinionated. So, it’s okay to hear different. That’s what makes us unique, that’s what makes us individuals, that’s what makes us human. 

 
 
-1clearhead

Great impressions and information for budget-gear fans! Thanks a lot! Hopefully my **** 4in1 and Magaosi BK50 will arrive very soon (4in1 should be closer).