C&C BH Portable Headphone Amp (80 Hours from a Single Charge!) [Buyer Review]
Apr 13, 2013 at 8:18 PM Post #1,696 of 3,421
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it's 300 mw per channel... so 600mw total, pretty sure


...specs for the E12 that was mentioned earlier, here's a snippet from Fiio
Max Output Power 600mW at 16 ohms, 880mW at 32 ohms, 160mW at 300 ohms.
 
Apr 13, 2013 at 8:22 PM Post #1,697 of 3,421
ooops nevermind this post
 
Apr 13, 2013 at 8:23 PM Post #1,698 of 3,421
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The BH is what I was talking about :)


Yeah, i was just chiming in on the conversation about the E11, E12 and BH max output power.
 
Apr 13, 2013 at 8:24 PM Post #1,699 of 3,421
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...specs for the E12 that was mentioned earlier, here's a snippet from Fiio
Max Output Power 600mW at 16 ohms, 880mW at 32 ohms, 160mW at 300 ohms.


I was speaking about the C&C BH , not sure if we are getting confused  :) I should have been more clear.
 
hahah damn overlap with postings oh well   thanks for the info brunk!
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Apr 13, 2013 at 8:25 PM Post #1,700 of 3,421
Well, I have to be honest - someone should measure it coz I seriously doubt it has 300mW per channel. It has more power than the E11 on high gain but not so much more. It's like with the E11 which was originally said to have 300mW
 
Apr 14, 2013 at 5:17 AM Post #1,701 of 3,421
Well, I have to be honest - someone should measure it coz I seriously doubt it has 300mW per channel. It has more power than the E11 on high gain but not so much more. It's like with the E11 which was originally said to have 300mW
I agree it would be nice, its too bad all of these measurements are done differently
 
Apr 14, 2013 at 5:29 AM Post #1,702 of 3,421
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I agree it would be nice, its too bad all of these measurements are done differently

Well, I know ClieOS mentioned thinking of buying BH coz it will be nice if someone with amp experience and measuring can check the output impedance and power. 
 
Apr 14, 2013 at 5:32 AM Post #1,703 of 3,421
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Well, I know ClieOS mentioned thinking of buying BH coz it will be nice if someone with amp experience and measuring can check the output impedance and power. 

He had then later reported he ordered the C5 over the BH..
 
Apr 14, 2013 at 10:35 AM Post #1,705 of 3,421
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He had then later reported he ordered the C5 over the BH..

 
I spent too much money this month already :p Anyway, I'll see if my budget allows it for next month, don't hold me up for it though.
 
Just to add to the discussion: Power = voltage x current. Having something loud means you have higher voltage output, but it doesn't mean it will have higher current output as well. You can have an amp that is really loud but low in current, resulting in lousy control, soft impact and sometime noise. That's actually a common problem on bad sources, where volume (quantity) is all you get. An ideal amp should have good balance between the two, giving you enough volume and adequate control.
 
Apr 15, 2013 at 2:20 AM Post #1,706 of 3,421
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I spent too much money this month already :p Anyway, I'll see if my budget allows it for next month, don't hold me up for it though.
 
Just to add to the discussion: Power = voltage x current. Having something loud means you have higher voltage output, but it doesn't mean it will have higher current output as well. You can have an amp that is really loud but low in current, resulting in lousy control, soft impact and sometime noise. That's actually a common problem on bad sources, where volume (quantity) is all you get. An ideal amp should have good balance between the two, giving you enough volume and adequate control.

Haha, let's hope you have room in your budget next month to have a shot at the BH! I'd say it's surely a worthy amp for the price. 
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Apr 15, 2013 at 8:15 AM Post #1,708 of 3,421
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It's hilarious how everyone on headfi refers to people's budgets coming in monthly, it's like they assume everyone's on cash assisted living lol!

He said it himself about his monthly budget! 
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Apr 15, 2013 at 8:17 AM Post #1,709 of 3,421
alas, I sadly think I won't be getting a BH 
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..... for I am the proud new owner of a pico slim 
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.  Finally I get to compare the shadow to the slim.  oh what a glorious battle it shall be.
 
Apr 15, 2013 at 12:26 PM Post #1,710 of 3,421
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Owning both the E12 and the C&C BH, I decided to ship the E12 back to Amazon. To me, the E12 is a very good amp with only certain types of phones (analytical, neutral, even more tipped to treble). With bassy (not over-bassy), warm phones, the E12 just makes things warm and almost sounds veiled. This is not a criticism, just my view. I had the Arrow 4G and it had a nifty treble boost (2 levels). The E12 could use this feature. Of course, the Arrow costs $299 new, so not a fair comparison. I was choosing here between the E12 and the C&C BH ($99) and with my gear, the C&C came out on top over the E12. I also love the C&C BH's SF control for live recordings.

 
I agree with your assessment. For instance, I like the C&C more with the closed WS99's. But, I like the E12 v1 better with the open AD900X (the v1 bass boost is just perfect with the AD900X's). I don't really want two amps.. oh well.
 

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