Dayum.... a little omnious?
Obviously the majority of the times this will come up for them is in putting your 'works' into their magazines/ads/videos without a constant need to get approval.
But there will be those rare eggs and times in where they practically jack your idea possibly.
It seems that these terms seem to include the entire 3-5 year period you will be a student there and even if you do it outside of the class, and during the summer...
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The majority of people who READ it you mean
. Lots of peple just sign schiit.
Gonna be devils advocate here. If I was CU. I would make this diclosure LONG and boring as hell with lots of redundant terminology. If legal, probably place it as a 'combined' sign thing that students sign to waive everything. Allows for student to sign multiple waivers, make packets uber thick, and make sure that 99.999% never read it. Depending on state laws or how it would hold up in court, they can change it to another form. Courts in the U.S have legal proceedings that sometimes rely on 'common sense'. And so CU may lose a court battle if the judge finds such packets with multiple schiit to be clear evidence of not letting students know. And if so. CU could once again, make an ultra thick stupid redundant disclosure packet. However this time soley based off just this one waiver. Put a lot of marketing and plausable deniability in the title that alludes to being a waiver. Yet market-fying and studentfying the cover with happy smiling students in their college setting and CU arts in the background as they sit and have lunch with their multi cultural friends. Such independent packets on a topic generally (from what I can tell based off my internetz wisdom) hold up in court slightly better as single packets on a disclosure generally....are in a way can be attested to be negligence on the students own part if they sign it.
Anyway. As a devils advocate. I will have to say bad move Cooper Union. Hide that schiit deep so people won't notice it. Obviously a paragraph paper being very blunt will get a lot of people worried.
On the general student side view. **** You to schools that do this.
Great posts!
Yea, I'm surprised places don't hide it within mounds of boilerplate. Makes me feel like there are laws which require it to be separate or at least precedent that will not side with the originator of the agreement if it's clearly meant to deceive the signer.
And the legal system, at least in the US, is moving toward requirements that any contract to be signed without an attorney present should be in language that is easily enough understandable by the common consumer.
I'm one of those people that go through all these consumer agreements they are presented with. But honestly after reading enough of them, you can pretty much easily tell what you can skim and what you should really slow down and read. Went through the most recent PS3 software update contract in like 3-4 minutes, which is not exactly a huge inconvenience for piece of mind when (digitally) signing a legal contract.
Haha thanks. Yea, NYC. (no offense to New Yorkers though, but California is still more comfortable)
Admin there is a mess really. Since all those student protests over free tuition and the more recent lawsuit attempt, I guess they're trying to crack down on stuff. The thing is, they say signing that document is a prerequisite for course selection (which doesn't matter since our foundation year is decided already) ... but this isn't the first time the admin has tried to BS it's way trying to make people sign stuff. Apparently everyone has to sign it, but this year's was more ominously worded. I prob won't sign it until it gets revised.
Haha this was their response
but still... looks like a majority of the new students don't want to sign it, so we'll see how it goes from there.
No offense taken lol, I'm sure you're probably right. Going to california is something i'll probably do sooner than later. never been.
Admin at like all schools is messy. If you ever have a problem, don't even hesitate to ask to speak with a supervisor, or the supervisors supervisor.
Wait, tuition? I thought CU covered tuition? No more?
Try to hold off signing it and see if they notice... is what i'd probably do lol. If things are as messy as you say, they might not be on top of it.
Also, as a fellow NYer (ahem
you know who you are for this windy face) , allow me to extend a warm welcome and let me know if you need anything!
lol, I edited the post with another version that looks/sounds a little better. If I added the Internet bit, it would be too much text at the top.
yea. no i was just saying i've seen it before in a different format. i found it for archival purposes
Drones are amazing, but they became illegal to fly in various places in the world
I don't know why but i don't like calling these drones. I don't know when this started, i blame the military, but these are high end remote control toys. You don't put a camera on a remote control helicopter and call it a drone, but all of a sudden you add a few propellors and its a drone.