Audeze SINE Series
Apr 1, 2017 at 5:54 AM Post #3,406 of 4,783
Bought 3 sets of QC25 pads and couldn't stretch them to fit my Sine, too small.......
 
Apr 1, 2017 at 5:55 AM Post #3,407 of 4,783
If they ever make an over ear pair, I'll never need another headphone again.

What about the EL-8 Open Back compared to the Sine? How big a difference in SQ and resolution?


I've never heard the Elate. The reviews I've skimmed seem very polarized, which suggests that it's very good, as long as _______. Whatever the reviewers who love it did or had in common, and the reviewers that hate it didn't. It might be a fit issue depending on your head size, it might be the kind of music you listen to, or more likely, the volume you like to listen at. I dunno, I don't have a need for the El8 so I never looked in to it.

So you said *IF* the Sine was an over-ear? Don't let Audeze's failure of a marketing department fool you: the Sine *IS* an over-ear model. In everything but name and stock earpads, anyway. (FYI even if it was on-ear, it still wasn't the first. See: Realistic Pro30, others)

In truth, everything about the Sine design says "over-ear." Take the stock torture pads off and leave them in the retail box, where you'll never have to think about them again until/unless you want to sell them. You don't even need to mess around with the 3D printed adapters to fit circumaural earpads on there: still have your M4U pads? Those are comfortably over-ear for you, right? They fit the Sine rather perfectly; now, it's an over-ear headphone!

Still, the PSB pads aren't ideal. They were designed for something much lighter, with less clamping force. I used them this way for several months and was happy the whole time. You just need them until Amazon delivers the Brainwavz angled memory foam pads I mentioned. They're a step up in comfort and sound quality, and they also fit securely without the use of adapters or other hardware.

There's one other way I know of: this works with just about any pad, no matter how large. You know how the LCD pads are attached using a ring of double sided tape? Just do that! IIRC you can't get all 360° coverage, but it's close enough that it doesn't really make a difference.

So I hope that I've been able to help you some, and hopefully you'll never mistake the Sine for an on-ear model again! :wink:
 
Apr 1, 2017 at 6:28 AM Post #3,408 of 4,783
I've never heard the Elate. The reviews I've skimmed seem very polarized, which suggests that it's very good, as long as _______. Whatever the reviewers who love it did or had in common, and the reviewers that hate it didn't. It might be a fit issue depending on your head size, it might be the kind of music you listen to, or more likely, the volume you like to listen at. I dunno, I don't have a need for the El8 so I never looked in to it.

So you said *IF* the Sine was an over-ear? Don't let Audeze's failure of a marketing department fool you: the Sine *IS* an over-ear model. In everything but name and stock earpads, anyway. (FYI even if it was on-ear, it still wasn't the first. See: Realistic Pro30, others)

In truth, everything about the Sine design says "over-ear." Take the stock torture pads off and leave them in the retail box, where you'll never have to think about them again until/unless you want to sell them. You don't even need to mess around with the 3D printed adapters to fit circumaural earpads on there: still have your M4U pads? Those are comfortably over-ear for you, right? They fit the Sine rather perfectly; now, it's an over-ear headphone!

Still, the PSB pads aren't ideal. They were designed for something much lighter, with less clamping force. I used them this way for several months and was happy the whole time. You just need them until Amazon delivers the Brainwavz angled memory foam pads I mentioned. They're a step up in comfort and sound quality, and they also fit securely without the use of adapters or other hardware.

There's one other way I know of: this works with just about any pad, no matter how large. You know how the LCD pads are attached using a ring of double sided tape? Just do that! IIRC you can't get all 360° coverage, but it's close enough that it doesn't really make a difference.

So I hope that I've been able to help you some, and hopefully you'll never mistake the Sine for an on-ear model again! :wink:

Thanks again for the feedback.

How is the noise isolation with the Brainwavz pads? I commute a lot, and use headphones to block out noise.
 
Apr 3, 2017 at 5:33 PM Post #3,411 of 4,783
Bought 3 sets of QC25 pads and couldn't stretch them to fit my Sine, too small.......

I very sorry other members cannot get the Bose QC25 pads on.
It took me allot of work and patience.
So I can nolong recommend them.
Plus they also give ear suctioning like stock pads.

Anyways, so far, there is no way getting around the fact,
that you need the adapters for best sine pad solution.

Only the vesper audio pads are made to fit,
but they are at over double the overall price..and smaller. .
 
Apr 3, 2017 at 6:36 PM Post #3,412 of 4,783
I very sorry other members cannot get the Bose QC25 pads on.
It took me allot of work and patience.
So I can nolong recommend them.
Plus they also give ear suctioning like stock pads.

Anyways, so far, there is no way getting around the fact,
that you need the adapters for best sine pad solution.

Only the vesper audio pads are made to fit,
but they are at over double the overall price..and smaller. .

What are you current thoughts on the best pads used with an adapter?
 
Apr 4, 2017 at 1:43 PM Post #3,413 of 4,783
I've been to-ing and fro-ing on a couple of earpads and the ones that are staying (for the moment anyway) are these MSR7 clones.
 
To my ears at least, they're about as close to stock sound as I've been able to get - they've been able to capture the immediacy and the bass texture that I love about the Sines, and which were too significantly compromised by the Brainwavz ones (I have flat pleather and hybrid ones, as well as angled velour ones) for them to be viable, comfy as they were. The Brainwavzs opened up the soundstage (which was nice) but were ultimately too distant and unfocused.
 
Plus the MSR7s fit quite securely without the need for adapters and don't add as much bulk to the Sines, as you can see:
 

 
P.S.: Big thank you to @ASRSPR for the adapter download - I didn't need it with the MSR7 after all, but it helps loads with keeping the bigger pads secure.
 
Apr 4, 2017 at 6:45 PM Post #3,416 of 4,783
Just got my Sine and joined the crew. Damn! These sound GOOD! Impressed. My poor LCD-2F are going to get less head time now. Now... where can I source proper plugs for the headphone side to build my own cables? Totally not a fan of flat cables. 
 
Apr 5, 2017 at 11:35 AM Post #3,417 of 4,783
whew. i just went through trying a gazillion different pairs of headphones. i wasn't thrilled with my 2012 classic lcd-3 so i sold em. then tried everything i could swing (anything i could get used for $1100 or less). finally was frustrated, like the baby bear trying the different chairs - nothing fit perfectly. then i thought of trying the lcd3-f 2016 and it all came together. except that i missed one of the pairs i had tried and sold along the way.... the Audeze Sine!  i had gotten em in weeks ago, ordered the AT pads and adapter, then sold em in my flurry of trying new cans. so i decided that my final missing link was the Sine, and i got lucky in that Max had just put his repadded pair up for sale. so i bought em from this ad:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/843251/audeze-sine-non-cipher-with-over-ear-pads-and-adapters

i should have em friday or saturday latest and i am waay psyched. also bought a Herus to allow me to play hi rez and drive em when not at my big rig. so, for the zillyinth time in the last 25 years, i am saying; "i am DONE".   (ha) and i will be an all audeze household, if i sell my th900's which i think i'm gonna do.

by the by,  i highly recommend obsessing on trying for the perfect cans as fantastic distraction therapy when bored to tears recovering from surgery. 

 
 
Apr 5, 2017 at 12:12 PM Post #3,418 of 4,783
I very sorry other members cannot get the Bose QC25 pads on.

It took me allot of work and patience.

So I can nolong recommend them.

Plus they also give ear suctioning like stock pads.


Anyways, so far, there is no way getting around the fact,

that you need the adapters for best sine pad solution.


Only the vesper audio pads are made to fit,

but they are at over double the overall price..and smaller. .

What are you current thoughts on the best pads used with an adapter?


The same pads in following post:

I've been to-ing and fro-ing on a couple of earpads and the ones that are staying (for the moment anyway) are these MSR7 clones.

To my ears at least, they're about as close to stock sound as I've been able to get - they've been able to capture the immediacy and the bass texture that I love about the Sines, and which were too significantly compromised by the Brainwavz ones (I have flat pleather and hybrid ones, as well as angled velour ones) for them to be viable, comfy as they were. The Brainwavzs opened up the soundstage (which was nice) but were ultimately too distant and unfocused.

Plus the MSR7s fit quite securely without the need for adapters and don't add as much bulk to the Sines, as you can see:




P.S.: Big thank you to @ASRSPR
for the adapter download - I didn't need it with the MSR7 after all, but it helps loads with keeping the bigger pads secure.

Not to your ears only...
The "MSR7 clones", which are the aftermarket Audio Technica pads, look and behave superior to the real Audio Technica pads.
Yes, they can fit loosely on sine , but I prefer the fit of member ninja adapters on them.

Coupled with the bose lettered felt covers, they are the best setup I have tried..

And I tried them all, including the versper, the authentic audio Technica, and also the cheaper adapters .

Most pad solutions will give you either distant or "U" shaped sound, so beware other pads...

Here is a pic of the "MSR7 clone" pads:
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Here is a pic of the bose QC25 lettered felt cover wich I use in combo with the pads :

They come in different
Colors and definitely worth it to distribute the trebles evenly .
So at least you can save the felt covers when you toss away the cheap small bose pads.
I actually place them last, inside the pad, not before as this pic might suggest. .
 
Apr 5, 2017 at 12:18 PM Post #3,419 of 4,783
whew. i just went through trying a gazillion different pairs of headphones. i wasn't thrilled with my 2012 classic lcd-3 so i sold em. then tried everything i could swing (anything i could get used for $1100 or less). finally was frustrated, like the baby bear trying the different chairs - nothing fit perfectly. then i thought of trying the lcd3-f 2016 and it all came together. except that i missed one of the pairs i had tried and sold along the way.... the Audeze Sine!  i had gotten em in weeks ago, ordered the AT pads and adapter, then sold em in my flurry of trying new cans. so i decided that my final missing link was the Sine, and i got lucky in that Max had just put his repadded pair up for sale.

Goodluck my friend I will PM you very soon with tracking.

For al those interested,
I chose to keep what I need over what I like,
As I needed open portables to hear coworkers during the day,
So my use for these was limited.
I still view these as one of best portables.
 
Apr 7, 2017 at 3:52 PM Post #3,420 of 4,783
Hey, i need a replacement cable for the sine since the original cable broke. My budget is about 50euro/usd. Does anyone know something? Non cypher

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LZRBOTY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
 

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