all999 said:

Got them couple days ago. First thing I did was change the earpads to HifiMan leather pads. Then I had to bend a metal holder of ear cups, because they are adjustable only vertical. No, there is no horisontal adjust of an ear cups, so I couldn't get a seal at the beginning. After this two little mods I could start to enjoy them. And boy, I enjoy them a lot. First thing You can notice is large soundstage, both wide and and in depth. Seperation and holography are very good.There is a lot of air, like it was open cans. Bass i s tight and acurate, with subbass going down to hell. Midrange is natural, vocals are a little bit away but not recessed.Upper midrange and highs are a little pronounced, they can be sibilant, but it's better after two days of burning in so I hope it's gonna settle down a bit. A hugo amount of details, I can still find some niuances in music I know for years. I'm listening on Fiio X5II and Samsung Galaxy S6.

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Can you post a link of the hifiman leather pads and maybe a picture of how you bend the metal?

adamtr said:

Can you post a link of the hifiman leather pads and maybe a picture of how you bend the metal?

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Sure thing!

These are the pads - https://head-direct.com/Products/?act=detail&id=111

And this is how You need to bend the holders.





Metal used here is hard. I used pliers with duct tape on it.

Thanks all999!

Listening to the HRM-7's with Alpha Pads now. Alpha Pads usually increase the soundstage of everything I put them on, but these things have such a huge soundstage already that I can't tell if it's bigger or not. The bass most definitely has more weight now. The slight harshness in the highs seem gone. An overall warmer sound. 

inthere said:

  Listening to the HRM-7's with Alpha Pads now. Alpha Pads usually increase the soundstage of everything I put them on, but these things have such a huge soundstage already that I can't tell if it's bigger or not. The bass most definitely has more weight now. The slight harshness in the highs seem gone. An overall warmer sound. 

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The pads look awesome.

Some people were complaining that they wouldn't work on the Yamaha's as good, because they are "Angled pads" and the Yammies are "Angled drivers" so I'm curious if the pios are "angled drivers" as well?

Did you get the Yamaha yet?
The pads I use tame the highs as well.

eurobeat said:

The pads look awesome.  

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Some people were complaining that they wouldn't work on the Yamaha's as good, because they are "Angled pads" and the Yammies are "Angled drivers" so I'm curious if the pios are "angled drivers" as well?

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 I don't think so, they looked flat as day old beer to me when I changed the pads. 

grizzlybeast said:

Did you get the Yamaha yet?
The pads I use tame the highs as well.

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Decided to opt out of the Yamahas because there is no return on anyo f them, and if I didn't like them I would be SOL, because I doubt anyone would buy them for retail, since they are being sold for under half of that on used markets.
 

inthere said:

   
 I don't think so, they looked flat as day old beer to me when I changed the pads. 

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Thanks .  I have no idea how to check, but figured someoen else would

I didn't even think about getting the alpha pads anymore.  I did hear the Brainwavz hrm5 pads are nice.  Any comparison with the Alpha dogs?

Do you guys think DT770 pads would fit I wanna mess around with different pads?

I got my headphones today, I waited awhile to open them and try them out.

I opened up the packaging box and noticed my box was beat up .  I took a video of it and the inside, and I noticed the little inside box seemed to have wear on it also.

I am not sure what exactly comes with this as "accessories"

But from what I see I got

1 extra earpads

1 straight cord

1 spiral cord

1 package of manuals.


On the box it said that there should be a big jack, and I notice there is a "Screw thread" on these jack ends.  I don't think I got a 6.3mm adapter.  On the back of the box it says there should be 2 pairs of earpads.  Does that mean 2 extra pairs, or 1 on the headphones, and 1 extra?

I do feel the back is "open" a bit, but they seem to fit decently.  I feel the Alpha Pads might work great to close off the backs since they are bigger. I've only worn them for about 5 mins, but they don't seem too heavy, but I do feel a little pain in my neck, so not sure if it's because of the headphones.


Thanks for any help, I'm a bit bummed, but after I finish writing this I am going to turn on the tunes, so I will edit when that time comes



EDIT:  So the first thing I notice was that my left speaker wasn't playing..  I'm all What!  Tried to readjust the plug, but then realized the port on my comp is busted, so I tried messing with it, and then switched to the middle port in hopes it could connect as a headphone, which it does.

So as for the sound...

TBH I'm not really blown away, in fact I feel the sound isn't really doing it for me.  There's a lot of bass, but I feel there isn't much "punch" to the music itself, but that the bass is overwhelming the melody of the music..

Maybe I need to EQ, but I expected a bit more with these.  Maybe I need to "burn in" as well, but who knows.  I am comparing these to my Logitech Z5300e speakers, and the sound they produce just seems so much better.  Even my Logitech G35 headset was really good.  But this I don't know....

I'm a bit sad, but maybe I'm missing something.  Maybe the onboard soundcard on my 5 year old laptop isn't good enough to drive these headphones?

Thanks all .

EDIT 2:  So I went to my sound settings to see if this was set to stereo or something else, and it was on "quad."  I changed it to stereo and I'm not sure if it sounds better, bu the bass is 5x as boomy and it seems waaay too much for me... ugh lmao...

EDIT 3:  So uh...  I couldn't take the bass on stereo, so i switched back to quad which sounded so much better.  But I kept noticing the right ear sounded much more "pronounced" than the left.  So I go to the plug and realized it's nto all the way plugged in.....

what a difference... LOL.  Bass gets put on the backburner now.  Going to go back to Stereo and see if that makes it better or worse.  So far, with it actually plugged in correct, it's sounding really good.

I also had to turn the "preamp" up on VLC around 8-10db.  Not sure what that means, but found when tocuhing that setting it got good.

EDIT 4:  So far sounding good.  It's a little sharp on the treble a bit.  Keep changing settings, currently usign 5.1 to get some bass while having good melody.  Stereo is too much.  Installing Razor surround, so going to see how that works

Some sounds are a lot louder than others, so I might have to loudness equalize.

So far it seems like a nice pair, but it feels like something is missing... I don't know what it is.  We shall find out possibly...

Part of it feels like my ears are just hurting from sharp sounds and the fact I did try some eq and high treble sliced my ears in half .  Maybe it's part of that "fatigue" I hear about .

 

Hello all, I was referred to the HRM-7 by a member of this thread. I was also considering another closed headphone that costs 3x more, but this headphone sounds too good not to at least try.
 
Towards the beginning of this thread someone said how the Fostex t50 is better. But I've just tried them again in July (I think it was the new version because it was from Jude's new demo gear at a meet). Compared to the HD 650, IIRC it seemed somewhat less clarity, soundstage and impact - so I'm hoping the HRM-7 is better.
 
Some other closed headphones I've tried were the Sony Z7 and I just didn't like the sound signature; Shure SRH 940 - detailed yet highs too piercing and no soundstage; both Oppo PM-3 and Beyer. DT 150 - too dark, muddy and not punchy enough; both LCD-XC and Denon AHD-7000 had nice tonality and refinement, etc. but seemed perhaps a bit artificial on the highs and small soundstage. So I'm wondering if you would still recommend this headphone to me?

decentlevi said:

  Hello all, I was referred to the HRM-7 by a member of this thread. I was also considering another closed headphone that costs 3x more, but this headphone sounds too good not to at least try.
 
Towards the beginning of this thread someone said how the Fostex t50 is better. But I've just tried them again in July (I think it was the new version because it was from Jude's new demo gear at a meet). Compared to the HD 650, IIRC it seemed somewhat less clarity, soundstage and impact - so I'm hoping the HRM-7 is better.
 
Some other closed headphones I've tried were the Sony Z7 and I just didn't like the sound signature; Shure SRH 940 - detailed yet highs too piercing and no soundstage; both Oppo PM-3 and Beyer. DT 150 - too dark, muddy and not punchy enough; both LCD-XC and Denon AHD-7000 had nice tonality and refinement, etc. but seemed perhaps a bit artificial on the highs and small soundstage. So I'm wondering if you would still recommend this headphone to me?

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I think you should try it.  I'm not 100% if it's for me, but I'm enjoying it so far .

eurobeat said:

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So as for the sound...

TBH I'm not really blown away, in fact I feel the sound isn't really doing it for me.  There's a lot of bass, but I feel there isn't much "punch" to the music itself, but that the bass is overwhelming the melody of the music..

So far it seems like a nice pair, but it feels like something is missing... I don't know what it is.  We shall find out possibly...

Part of it feels like my ears are just hurting from sharp sounds and the fact I did try some eq and high treble sliced my ears in half .  Maybe it's part of that "fatigue" I hear about .
 

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I'm pretty darn sure what you're missing are three letters: AMP. Earlier posts have mentioned how these require an amp to sound better; adding one will generally control the drivers better to add definition to the bass, improved clarity, soundstage, etc. not to mention a DAC helps to reproduce the signal much more faithfully than a PC. And I would probably recommend at least a medium good amp, so forgo the O2, Magni and JDS Labs for more like a Liquid Carbon or Project Ember amp.
 
Also did you say this 'can sounds too harsh / 'bright' in the treble? We both listen to electronic music mostly, so your impressions of how it does with this would be helpful too. Thanks

decentlevi said:

Hello all, I was referred to the HRM-7 by a member of this thread. I was also considering another closed headphone that costs 3x more, but this headphone sounds too good not to at least try.

Towards the beginning of this thread someone said how the Fostex t50 is better. But I've just tried them again in July (I think it was the new version because it was from Jude's new demo gear at a meet). Compared to the HD 650, IIRC it seemed somewhat less clarity, soundstage and impact - so I'm hoping the HRM-7 is better.

Some other closed headphones I've tried were the Sony Z7 and I just didn't like the sound signature; Shure SRH 940 - detailed yet highs too piercing and no soundstage; both Oppo PM-3 and Beyer. DT 150 - too dark, muddy and not punchy enough; both LCD-XC and Denon AHD-7000 had nice tonality and refinement, etc. but seemed perhaps a bit artificial on the highs and small soundstage. So I'm wondering if you would still recommend this headphone to me?

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I wouldn't recommend these to you since you mention bass punch. The highs out of the box are a bit much. Compared to the hd650 this had less bass(different pads can help) , bigger Soundstage, tight, deep and very solid bass but it doesn't punch hard really. I think you would appreciate it but then let it go because the bass isn't above neutral.

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I'm pretty darn sure what you're missing are three letters: AMP. Earlier posts have mentioned how these require an amp to sound better; adding one will generally control the drivers better to add definition to the bass, improved clarity, soundstage, etc. not to mention a DAC helps to reproduce the signal much more faithfully than a PC. And I would probably recommend at least a medium good amp, so forgo the O2, Magni and JDS Labs for more like a Liquid Carbon or Project Ember amp.
 
Also did you say this 'can sounds too harsh / 'bright' in the treble? We both listen to electronic music mostly, so your impressions of how it does with this would be helpful too. Thanks

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yeah .  I'm looking at the aune t1 mk2, but I heart it's a high impedance Tube DAC/amp.  It seems a lot of people really like it wiht a good tube, so I might collect some tubes and give it a try .

I'll checko ut your suggestions on amps, though.  I don't want to spend too much, but if it will blow my mind, than sure .
  
Yeah, at some points I feel it can be a little harsh, but I took a little break from my first listen and it's sounding really good.  I don't have loudness equalization on when I thought I did but it seems to be alright.  I feel it's a little harsh, but I'll have to see at what degree.  I can see it getting a bit annoying after awhile.

Maybe a new setup will fix this... though.

It also sucks I kept switching through the eq.  "full treble" on VLC rocked me after I plugged the headphones in fully >(.  Hopefully didn't damage anything with this, but who knows if I'm even keeping this pair (might have to return it due to it possibly not having all accessories).

 

grizzlybeast said:

I wouldn't recommend these to you since you mention bass punch. The highs out of the box are a bit much. Compared to the hd650 this had less bass(different pads can help) , bigger Soundstage, tight, deep and very solid bass but it doesn't punch hard really. I think you would appreciate it but then let it go because the bass isn't above neutral.

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Idk man, when I have this in Stereo the bass is too much for me...  But that's preference I guess...



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Man... I want to love these, but it's really harsh.  Idk if an amp/dac will change that, but .  It's okay if I listen to it at lower vols, but I like it a little louder.
@grizzlybeast are the Yamahas less "bright?"

I did notice that "classical" lessens the harshness on the VLC EQ >( I guess I need to read up on What this eq shizz is hahaah .


now to see if I want to get this aune, or if I should get something else...

Idk who said it, but someone said that an amp/dac only accounts for 10% of the sound...  I'm assuming the "difference" in amps, because if you don't have one your headphones wont be able to work at max power.



Idk if I feel like something on the left side is missing or not.  I dont think i did damage to it with it not being fully plugged it, or the messed up plug (since my logitech speakers use that).


Alright gents... It's time for "Operation find Eurobeat an Amp/DAC" .