iDSD micro Black Label. Tour details (page 147). Release info (page 153).
Jul 17, 2014 at 9:42 AM Post #1,443 of 4,252
I am really curious to hear the new ifi micro, it seems to promise a lot about sound quality. I have many doubts about the choice of the PCM1793 DAC chip that I know well, I think it's not a right choice, I hope to change my mind, but it has its limits and not only to the measures. All that I have heard with this dac chip had limitations, in particular on the performance of the full orchestra, it is not suitable for nuances of classical music, including the dynamics leaves a bit to be desired. And yes I agree the tda 1541a is very nice chip that only lack a bit in dinamic, but no.... the pcm1793 is not at same level.
I hope that the Ifi team did miracles with this dac chip.
 
Jul 17, 2014 at 9:52 AM Post #1,444 of 4,252
  I am really curious to hear the new ifi micro, it seems to promise a lot about sound quality. I have many doubts about the choice of the PCM1793 DAC chip that I know well, I think it's not a right choice, I hope to change my mind, but it has its limits and not only to the measures. All that I have heard with this dac chip had limitations, in particular on the performance of the full orchestra, it is not suitable for nuances of classical music, including the dynamics leaves a bit to be desired. And yes I agree the tda 1541a is very nice chip that only lack a bit in dinamic, but no.... the pcm1793 is not at same level.
I hope that the Ifi team did miracles with this dac chip.


If I understand correctly, they are using the same chips in the Nano iDSD, and it is getting rave reviews.  If anything, the Micro s/b slightly better, if only because of upgraded electronics around the chip and experience with the Nano.
 
Jul 17, 2014 at 12:30 PM Post #1,445 of 4,252
  I am really curious to hear the new ifi micro, it seems to promise a lot about sound quality. I have many doubts about the choice of the PCM1793 DAC chip that I know well, I think it's not a right choice, I hope to change my mind, but it has its limits and not only to the measures. All that I have heard with this dac chip had limitations, in particular on the performance of the full orchestra, it is not suitable for nuances of classical music, including the dynamics leaves a bit to be desired. And yes I agree the tda 1541a is very nice chip that only lack a bit in dinamic, but no.... the pcm1793 is not at same level.
I hope that the Ifi team did miracles with this dac chip.

 
Read this: http://www.head-fi.org/t/683406/ifi-audio-nano-idsd-announced/645 (from post #658 forward to the next 5~6 pages).
 
It doesn't address your concern directly, but it should give you a glimpse on how deep iFi has invested into the DSD1793 in order to have hidden features that are not even listed by TI and the confidence they have in this chip's performance.
 
Jul 17, 2014 at 1:16 PM Post #1,446 of 4,252
Is this based on the Vintage British Leak Stereo 50 Amplifier???

http://www.the-ear.net/news/ifi-retro-stereo-30
 
"Ifi Retro Stereo 30
Monday, February 17, 2014


AMR offshoot ifi has taken a break from building its kit in compact aluminium boxes and created the Retro system solid real bamboo casework. Designed as a decent system without the clutter Retro Stereo 30 consists of a 25 watt ‘e-receiver’ with EL34 valves and modern features such as Bluetooth and USB alongside a phono input for turntables. It’s a great looking, compact system with two way loudspeakers that ifi hopes to be able to sell for £1,500. Other features include X-Bass and 3D sound, the latter for headphones which are also accommodated. It even has tone controls with the audiophile option of a direct bypass button. The name and valve choice indicate an enthusiasm for the Leak Stereo 20 valve amp or yore which also used EL34s.




 
 
 
 


More info...      http://www.keith-snook.info/leak-hifi.html
 
Jul 17, 2014 at 1:23 PM Post #1,447 of 4,252
Another iFi Stereo System...
http://ifi-audio-jp.blogspot.com/2013/10/6ifi-retro-stereo-30-amplifier-ls35.html
 
"iFi Retro Stereo 30 Amplifier + LS3.5 Speakers (Retro System) retro system to integrate the device of iFI audio micro series has received favorable reception. The set of the newly developed speaker which followed the BBC monitor of tradition. External input is also a rich set. As a desktop, you can use widely in both as living for. Stereo 30 Amplifier • (EL84 use). 25W +25 W * pure vacuum tube amplifier • power converter power supply, which has been designed for the vacuum tube specially (PCPS) • 3D holographic sound system (equivalent to the previous sale iTube) • The XBass sound enhancement system deployment, and then reproduce the correct low frequency. • . (device use of iFi iDAC equivalent) ESS manufactured by high resolution DAC chipset • equipment (24/96), coaxial digital input (24/192) light pin input USB input that is fully isolated (24/96 ) • equivalent) and (iFi iPhono ultra-low noise phono equalizer equipment • 2 x 7000MW headphone out equipment • (passable) Precision tone control. • Precision analog volume . * Music power LS3.5 Speakers • cabinet bamboo manufacturing. Open sound with ultra low energy • four units has achieved high efficiency, broadband custom-made, with no crossover network all. • 28mm silk dome tweeter mounted • BASF damping material advanced detailed specification / release date / price: TBD"
 
Jul 17, 2014 at 5:39 PM Post #1,449 of 4,252
Hi,
 
Too many - questions. We or somebody may have to start a brand new thread!
 
Chat tomorrow on the Retro. After we have caught up with one of the R&D guys to get the final specs.
 
It has Octa-Speed DSD512 among other things and some of the press specs are a little off.
 
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Jul 17, 2014 at 8:32 PM Post #1,450 of 4,252
Great iFi photo,including the "Retro System"...
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Jul 18, 2014 at 1:53 AM Post #1,451 of 4,252
Too many - questions. We or somebody may have to start a brand new thread!


I think ifi Audio should start it as a Crowd-Design. The Retro 30 clearly needs a bit of tweaking in light of the specs of the iDSD. It is going to look compromised otherwise and at the proposed price it should be all-singing all-dancing. I certainly have a wish list for this device (and it's quite long).
 
Jul 18, 2014 at 4:48 AM Post #1,452 of 4,252
I think ifi Audio should start it as a Crowd-Design. The Retro 30 clearly needs a bit of tweaking in light of the specs of the iDSD. It is going to look compromised otherwise and at the proposed price it should be all-singing all-dancing. I certainly have a wish list for this device (and it's quite long).

 I think we need a break right now... and enjoy music 
 

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