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Teac has released a portable DAC Amp HA-P50-B which hasn't appeared on their website (I lied, it has but I just didn't see it) but on Fujiya's catalogue instead.

 

 

It seems to be using a Burr Brown PCM5102 DAC (max 24/96). The OpAmps are OPA1652 and there's sufficient grunt to drive up to a 600ohm headphone.

Has both optical and USB inputs. Apparently (if translation is correct), no CCK is required for iOS support but uncertain if Teac's iOS HR Audio Player is required. It also supports Android (AOA2.0).

There's also a Line In to use it as just an amp.

The 2100mAh battery life lasts up to 8 hours which can be charged via USB (despite having a 5V DC in port?).

The price is 28,140 Yen (approx ~USD$278.53)

post #2 of 94

WOW ..... very nice... will be available in the US or what ? 

post #3 of 94
Will it be for the U.S. market?
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I'm not certain if it'll make it to the US but seems these days with the likes of Price Japan, a fair number of keen consumers (here) don't seem to wait till their local distributors bring the products in anyway.

 

What got me curious about this amp is that it seems to be able to do iDevice without the CCK which implies it's an Apple approved product. If so it's cheaper than the other approved iDevice DACs. The article/ad does seem to mention about the TEAC iApp a lot though so I'm wondering if it'll only work with that app or can the standard iOS music player work too. I'll have to give it a shot.

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If it is Apple Certified it should definitely work through the regular music player.

post #6 of 94
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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post
 

Teac has released a portable DAC Amp HA-P50-B which hasn't appeared on their website (I lied, it has but I just didn't see it) but on Fujiya's catalogue instead.

 

It seems to be using a Burr Brown PCM5102 DAC (max 24/96). The OpAmps are OPA1652 and there's sufficient grunt to drive up to a 600ohm headphone.

Has both optical and USB inputs. Apparently (if translation is correct), no CCK is required for iOS support but uncertain if Teac's iOS HR Audio Player is required. It also supports Android (AOA2.0).

There's also a Line In to use it as just an amp.

The 2100mAh battery life lasts up to 8 hours which can be charged via USB (despite having a 5V DC in port?).

The price is 28,140 Yen (approx ~USD$278.53)

 

A minor correction, good sir --- the PCM5102 actually supports up to 32/384 bit-depth/rates, but it'll be up to the receiver/muxer chip(s) to determine what it can accept. If it's iOS/Android only, then yeah, it's probably maximum 24/96. Strangely, this unit seems a little less than versatile for this day and age. Most people are doing PC/iOS/Android, on top of line-in amplification. The amp stage seems nice, though.

 

EDIT: Looks like it does connect to the PC...

 

 

Not that most people listen to higher resolution music, but why stop at 24/96 when everyone else is touting 32/384 & DSD64/128?

 

While it very well might not be true, people might think it's "inferior" to its competitors...


Edited by tomscy2000 - 2/8/14 at 5:02am
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Hi guys, is there any listening impression for this little amp from TEAC. Very tempt to purchase one. understood the release day on Mar 21, 2014.
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Am I drunk and confused or is today the official release date for this component?
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TEAC Japan announced the launch is delayed to Mar 31

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TEAC Japan announced the launch is delayed to Mar 31

Ah, thank you.

I must say, unless early reviews come back wretched, I shall likely buy one and I find this announcement rather exciting.
It's exciting because an obviously well thought out product from a major audio electronics company showing good cosmetic and technical design at a decent price point indicates a maturing of the portable audio market.
Along with the Sony PHA-1 and the Fostex HP-P1, the big boys seem intent on delivering decent product at highstreet prices. This seems to me to be good news.

For three hundred bucks, it's hard to go wrong. Unless this thing sounds like wet poo, I can see TEAC selling a boatload of them.
Beyond hoping for good sound quality, I just pray the charging isn't too fiddly.

All in all, more fun times ahead in portable audio.
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This is my first time to “open box”. I learned that TEAC will launch the first portable amp & dac in March at around USD$300. Then I kept a close eye of it and imported it once it launched in Japan. I got it on Apr 4 and some locations in Japan still hadn’t get the product.

 

As this is made by Teac, the build is top notch. Strong, solid and the button push is smooth. Two cables are provided. One is purely for charging with USB plug. You can directly charge from the electricity plug / computer usb. Another cable is USB and micro ends which is used to connect the amp with computer. The size of the amp is same as the ipod touch 5 and the thcikness is 1.5 times of ipod touch which is smaller than Sony PHA-1.

 

The most selling point of this amp is the compatibility – you can flow signal by “line in”, “optical in”, “USB in via apple devices and Android device” and “micro usb in for window and mac computer”. However, if you use the micro usb to connect with the computer, it will get the signal and charge the amp in the same time, I feel the sound quality is affected a bit. Now go to the most important part – sound quality. The sound signature is clean and clear. It is very transparent and not warm and cold sound. I use the ipod touch to fill and pack with the amp. With the amp, the sound likes to open a “big door”, the sound becomes very open and dynamic but not change the sound signature. I used to own the RSA, corda 2Stepdance and Alo National and A&K10.

 

Comparing with RSA, I like the RSA house sound a lot. It is warm and comfortable. The HA-P50 seems another way round.

 

Comparing with corda 2Stepdance, the sound signature is similar now. Both are clean and transparent and no add any additive to the sound. If you like Corda amp, you can try HA-P50.

 

Comparing with A&K10 at the similar price point, the dac and amp sections of HA-P50 wins a lot and at different level. A&K wins at the size.

 

The direct competitor may be the Sony PHA-1 and PHA-2. I have heard PHA-1 only and heard the Sony house sound which is the part I dislike but this may be your apple. For PHA-2, the price is nearly double of HA-P50.

 

In the end, I think this is a cheap jewellery and worth to introduce the head-fiers esp the price is mid 2000 something. Thanks for watching. 

post #13 of 94

Has anyone bought one of these?  The "optical" input is not Toslink, so what is it?  

post #14 of 94

The post above you is from someone who bought one about a week ago. 

 

sez on their webpage that it's an optical digital input http://teac.jp/product/ha-p50/  (it's in japanese tho). Probably 3.5mm mini toslink...

 

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Has anyone bought one of these?  The "optical" input is not Toslink, so what is it?  

post #15 of 94

And I paid $340 for the Ak10, I feel ripped off!

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