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Lurk650
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You are the second person to say that. That is crazy. They have a good amount of bass to me.
smy1, look into the Alpha and Delta D2. That's what I use
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The price of bulk package XE800 is amazingly low :O Have to buy these quickly before they're gone forever :v
BTW, retail XE800 price has been cut down to 299 RMB, obviously because of the bulk package version leakage
BTW, retail XE800 price has been cut down to 299 RMB, obviously because of the bulk package version leakage
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**** 4in1 (by **** AUDIO)
Okay, so finally the **** 4in1 were burned-in for over 100 hours plus and I am more than confident that much of its’ sound signature won’t probably change from this point.
Before I start, I would like to say that I have no affiliation and have any business relationship other than the current in-ear earphones I actually bought directly from **** at his taobao store for such a low price.....and “I actually bought two” –piano black and pearl grey!
About the **** 4in1:
There are two types, which one can choose from; the piano black or the pearl grey. They come with detachable wires, carry case, tie/shirt clip, and extra ear tips that are all packaged in one nice box. One would think to pay a hefty price to own these, but my purchase came out to be only 228 RMB with free shipping (equivalent to $34 US dollars).
The Frequency Response is based according to the SPECS on ****'s homepage website on taobao and other websites that carry similar information:
Sensitivity: 108dB / mW
Impedance: 32Ω
Frequency range: 10-350000Hz
Cable length: 1.2
Brand: ****
Model: 4in1
Wires: Detachable MMCX
DD: Beryllium
BA: Knowles 30042
Color: Piano black and Pearl Grey
Frequency Graph according to ****
You can find them in taobao, aliexpress, or other respected online stores.
Here are a few links…..
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.16.SPJIk7&id=536406272968&ns=1&abbucket=4#detail
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2016-****-4in1-In-Ear-Earphone-Dynamic-BA-Hybrid-Drive-Unit-DIY-DJ-Earphone-HIFI-Headset/32704437923.html?spm=2114.30010308.3.1.oEP4RB&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_8,searchweb201602_5_10057_10056_10055_10049_10017_10059_10058_10060_9999_10061_10062_10064,searchweb201603_8&btsid=d265f58c-ce1d-40e2-be3c-6911308f591d
SOUND SIGNATURE:
With "default tips" on the **** 4in1’s:
The 4in1’s produce a mildly V-shaped signature that is sure to please with a nice sub-bass impact and a very open and clean mid to high-end treble response that emanates even micro-details.
With "secondary tips" provided by **** for the 4in1’s:
The sound signature is more balanced with better vocals and midrange while maintaining excellent clarity throughout the overall range.
TUNING:
According to **** these are tuned to play with hi-end resolution and acoustics and by far they seem to portray that factor. The sound quality itself, definitely seem to sound way beyond their price point and then some.
BUILD QUALITY:
To my surprise, the 4in1’s seems to be built like a tank of armor. On pictures they seem small and compact, but in reality they are a little heavy and slightly bigger. For me, the tank-like armor with the little added weight makes them feel like I spent a lot of money on them. A BIG plus, if you ask me! For others that are sport enthusiast, the weight might be a little more trouble-some for jogging, outdoor sports, or even the gym. So, I’d say use these according to what best fits your needs.
REVIEW CONTENT:
The review will consist of the **** 4in1, HLSX-BK50 and HLSX-808 with other quick comparisons that include the AKG K3003, K3003 by **** and the DUNU DN2000, as well. On my review, we’re going to focus on 3 hybrids plus other quick comparisons as mentioned above. So, keep in mind, it’s all about preferences. We’re talking about (1) **** 4in1 with default and with secondary tips provided by ****, (2) HLSX-BK50 with small AUVIO silicone tips with the red inner bore, (3) and HLSX-808 mod version as instructed by the one they call MOD MAN -'CoiL'.
**** 4in1 VS HLSX-BK50 VS HLSX-808:
BASS:
The bass on the **** 4in1 has got to be some of the best in the market, but not just for quantity, but for the quality and the detail within. The beryllium DD’s probably makes a good emphasis of great bass without sacrificing clarity. They are just beautifully detailed with bass, especially sub-bass. So far, these are my favorite in this area. Now, with the BK50 the bass is sweet, but smoother and with plenty of sub-bass when called for. The 808's has more of a bass to mid-bass that compliments very well with the crisp details it provides on the rest of its sound signature.
MIDRANGE:
The BK50 really shines in this area for both male and especially the female artist, which sounds realistic and refreshing and can really entertain our ears to a full vocal type concert with breathe taking accuracy. For the 4in1’s, the midrange is clear and detailed for both male and female and has great transparency, but not as forward as the BK50, but details are there and consistent, which is a big plus. While, with the 808 (mods) it adds a crisp signature where guitar plucking never sounded so good and vocals for the male artist are nicely emphasized!
TREBLE:
With details and micro-details and not just bass alone is where the 4in1 reigns once again. It does very well maintaining plenty of details on top all the way down towards midrange vocal range that gives a luscious, but brilliant response in which you’ll never miss a “chime”. They do very well in maintaining transparency without ever intruding a harsh and sibilant signature -wow! Now, with the BK50, I can pick-up brilliant details and I can even pick-up micro-details at times while still having a smooth and open atmospheric sound signature. The 808 (mods) carries clean and clear treble with crisp hi-end details for those that like a little sizzle in their signature.
SOUNDSTAGE:
The BK50 has a very wide soundstage with precision, accuracy and plenty of details. They are well balanced with a slight emphasis in sub-bass and vocals giving you great resolution throughout the whole spectrum. They can put on smile on any one that’s interested in their signature and style and even the most enthusiast audio junkie, for that matter. While, with the 4in1’s, they are just as good and do better with instrument separation with plenty of detail, imaging, clarity, and great depth, for that matter. What I get from the 808 (mods) is a close combination of both discriptive signatures following closely by a hair behind both the BK50 and the 4in1’s and leaning towards a crisp-like signature with great emphasis on acoustical music that personally I enjoy for hours at a time.
OTHER COMPARISONS:
Comparisons with AKG K3003, K3003 by ****, and DUNU DN2000:
Clarity is on par with the AKG K3003, K3003 by ****, and DUNU DN2000, but bass, especially sub-bass notes on the 4in1 are slightly better, better detailed with greater depth. The upper midrange and treble are more transparent and less harsh and sibilant than all three and performs micro-details effortlessly. Notably, the lower midrange on the 4in1’s seems to sound less congested, especially when the music gets too busy with different instruments -A BIG plus! And finally, the advantage the 4in1 has over all three are the detachable wires, which one can replace, enhance, or even stash away for safe keeping!
FINAL ANALYSIS:
Finally, I would like to say that **** did a great job putting these together for the budget seeking consumer like you and I. These would have been the perfect IEM for that perfect low price, but he missed out in one thing for those that crave for perfection. He did not add any tuning nozzles to these, therefore, relying on tip-swapping for added bass, midrange, or treble is more in anyone’s preference, to say the least.
CONCLUSION:
In this latest review, this is how it currently stands with the **** being my current favorite slightly over the BK50’s and the 808's thereafter.....
FROM FAVORITE TO LEAST:
**** 4in1 (default tips/secondary tips)
HLSX-BK50 (with aftermarket small AUVIO silicone tips with red inner bore)
HLSX-808 (mod)
Thank you note:
Special thanks go to ‘crabdog’ for this incredible find! I was able to stop two purchases that would have set me back some change!
And, another special thanks goes to “MOD MAN” –‘CoiL’ for the enhancement of my 808’s, which I treasure even more today!
This review is according to my preference and ears. Others may differ or be opinionated. So, it’s okay to hear different. That’s what makes us unique, that’s what makes us individuals, that’s what makes us human.
-1clearhead
Okay, so finally the **** 4in1 were burned-in for over 100 hours plus and I am more than confident that much of its’ sound signature won’t probably change from this point.
Before I start, I would like to say that I have no affiliation and have any business relationship other than the current in-ear earphones I actually bought directly from **** at his taobao store for such a low price.....and “I actually bought two” –piano black and pearl grey!
About the **** 4in1:
There are two types, which one can choose from; the piano black or the pearl grey. They come with detachable wires, carry case, tie/shirt clip, and extra ear tips that are all packaged in one nice box. One would think to pay a hefty price to own these, but my purchase came out to be only 228 RMB with free shipping (equivalent to $34 US dollars).
The Frequency Response is based according to the SPECS on ****'s homepage website on taobao and other websites that carry similar information:
Sensitivity: 108dB / mW
Impedance: 32Ω
Frequency range: 10-350000Hz
Cable length: 1.2
Brand: ****
Model: 4in1
Wires: Detachable MMCX
DD: Beryllium
BA: Knowles 30042
Color: Piano black and Pearl Grey
Frequency Graph according to ****
You can find them in taobao, aliexpress, or other respected online stores.
Here are a few links…..
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.16.SPJIk7&id=536406272968&ns=1&abbucket=4#detail
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2016-****-4in1-In-Ear-Earphone-Dynamic-BA-Hybrid-Drive-Unit-DIY-DJ-Earphone-HIFI-Headset/32704437923.html?spm=2114.30010308.3.1.oEP4RB&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_8,searchweb201602_5_10057_10056_10055_10049_10017_10059_10058_10060_9999_10061_10062_10064,searchweb201603_8&btsid=d265f58c-ce1d-40e2-be3c-6911308f591d
SOUND SIGNATURE:
With "default tips" on the **** 4in1’s:
The 4in1’s produce a mildly V-shaped signature that is sure to please with a nice sub-bass impact and a very open and clean mid to high-end treble response that emanates even micro-details.
With "secondary tips" provided by **** for the 4in1’s:
The sound signature is more balanced with better vocals and midrange while maintaining excellent clarity throughout the overall range.
TUNING:
According to **** these are tuned to play with hi-end resolution and acoustics and by far they seem to portray that factor. The sound quality itself, definitely seem to sound way beyond their price point and then some.
BUILD QUALITY:
To my surprise, the 4in1’s seems to be built like a tank of armor. On pictures they seem small and compact, but in reality they are a little heavy and slightly bigger. For me, the tank-like armor with the little added weight makes them feel like I spent a lot of money on them. A BIG plus, if you ask me! For others that are sport enthusiast, the weight might be a little more trouble-some for jogging, outdoor sports, or even the gym. So, I’d say use these according to what best fits your needs.
REVIEW CONTENT:
The review will consist of the **** 4in1, HLSX-BK50 and HLSX-808 with other quick comparisons that include the AKG K3003, K3003 by **** and the DUNU DN2000, as well. On my review, we’re going to focus on 3 hybrids plus other quick comparisons as mentioned above. So, keep in mind, it’s all about preferences. We’re talking about (1) **** 4in1 with default and with secondary tips provided by ****, (2) HLSX-BK50 with small AUVIO silicone tips with the red inner bore, (3) and HLSX-808 mod version as instructed by the one they call MOD MAN -'CoiL'.
**** 4in1 VS HLSX-BK50 VS HLSX-808:
BASS:
The bass on the **** 4in1 has got to be some of the best in the market, but not just for quantity, but for the quality and the detail within. The beryllium DD’s probably makes a good emphasis of great bass without sacrificing clarity. They are just beautifully detailed with bass, especially sub-bass. So far, these are my favorite in this area. Now, with the BK50 the bass is sweet, but smoother and with plenty of sub-bass when called for. The 808's has more of a bass to mid-bass that compliments very well with the crisp details it provides on the rest of its sound signature.
MIDRANGE:
The BK50 really shines in this area for both male and especially the female artist, which sounds realistic and refreshing and can really entertain our ears to a full vocal type concert with breathe taking accuracy. For the 4in1’s, the midrange is clear and detailed for both male and female and has great transparency, but not as forward as the BK50, but details are there and consistent, which is a big plus. While, with the 808 (mods) it adds a crisp signature where guitar plucking never sounded so good and vocals for the male artist are nicely emphasized!
TREBLE:
With details and micro-details and not just bass alone is where the 4in1 reigns once again. It does very well maintaining plenty of details on top all the way down towards midrange vocal range that gives a luscious, but brilliant response in which you’ll never miss a “chime”. They do very well in maintaining transparency without ever intruding a harsh and sibilant signature -wow! Now, with the BK50, I can pick-up brilliant details and I can even pick-up micro-details at times while still having a smooth and open atmospheric sound signature. The 808 (mods) carries clean and clear treble with crisp hi-end details for those that like a little sizzle in their signature.
SOUNDSTAGE:
The BK50 has a very wide soundstage with precision, accuracy and plenty of details. They are well balanced with a slight emphasis in sub-bass and vocals giving you great resolution throughout the whole spectrum. They can put on smile on any one that’s interested in their signature and style and even the most enthusiast audio junkie, for that matter. While, with the 4in1’s, they are just as good and do better with instrument separation with plenty of detail, imaging, clarity, and great depth, for that matter. What I get from the 808 (mods) is a close combination of both discriptive signatures following closely by a hair behind both the BK50 and the 4in1’s and leaning towards a crisp-like signature with great emphasis on acoustical music that personally I enjoy for hours at a time.
OTHER COMPARISONS:
Comparisons with AKG K3003, K3003 by ****, and DUNU DN2000:
Clarity is on par with the AKG K3003, K3003 by ****, and DUNU DN2000, but bass, especially sub-bass notes on the 4in1 are slightly better, better detailed with greater depth. The upper midrange and treble are more transparent and less harsh and sibilant than all three and performs micro-details effortlessly. Notably, the lower midrange on the 4in1’s seems to sound less congested, especially when the music gets too busy with different instruments -A BIG plus! And finally, the advantage the 4in1 has over all three are the detachable wires, which one can replace, enhance, or even stash away for safe keeping!
FINAL ANALYSIS:
Finally, I would like to say that **** did a great job putting these together for the budget seeking consumer like you and I. These would have been the perfect IEM for that perfect low price, but he missed out in one thing for those that crave for perfection. He did not add any tuning nozzles to these, therefore, relying on tip-swapping for added bass, midrange, or treble is more in anyone’s preference, to say the least.
CONCLUSION:
In this latest review, this is how it currently stands with the **** being my current favorite slightly over the BK50’s and the 808's thereafter.....
FROM FAVORITE TO LEAST:
**** 4in1 (default tips/secondary tips)
HLSX-BK50 (with aftermarket small AUVIO silicone tips with red inner bore)
HLSX-808 (mod)
Thank you note:
Special thanks go to ‘crabdog’ for this incredible find! I was able to stop two purchases that would have set me back some change!
And, another special thanks goes to “MOD MAN” –‘CoiL’ for the enhancement of my 808’s, which I treasure even more today!
This review is according to my preference and ears. Others may differ or be opinionated. So, it’s okay to hear different. That’s what makes us unique, that’s what makes us individuals, that’s what makes us human.
-1clearhead
@1clearhead darn, now you made me wish I bought with cable because I missed out on the box and other accessories. Still very happy with my purchase though.
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Yea, the wires are pretty good after all. Using them for over a week now and I didn't get any noise distortion. They turned out to be okay.
Man, I would really like to know how did they compare with, you know.....the IEM that went to the dark side.
At least "PM" me, but don't mention the name.
AKG K3003 = $750, DN2000 = $250, 4in1 = $29 BUT 4in1 is better in most every aspect? This has to be the deal of the century.
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i've just ordered another set from http://www.aliexpress.com/item/100-Original-VIVO-XE800-High-definition-moveable-Hifi-Sound-system-in-ear-earphone-with-mic-Voice/32704376144.html
$18. talked to the seller, and now i'm almost absolutely sure his original source is the same than rillpac or original earphones.
if SQ is like you all mentioned, it's a bargain for those seeking a neutral clear cheap iem. however, i guess these iem will die via cable connection to the shell; strain reliefs seem to be too small.
Well, there was some sarcasm behind my post. Started to ask if they trounced the Senn HD800 but wanted to be nice lol.
kalo86
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Does the **** 4in1 IEM need a dedicated AMP? Thanks
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kalo86
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Ok, good then! Thanks for the answer 
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