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Poll Results: Which one would you order??

 
  • 68% (113)
    Carbo Tenore
  • 31% (52)
    Carbo Basso
165 Total Votes  
post #1921 of 3994
Thanks to a friend and former head-fier, I can recommend UE900 tips. They are 3.5mm at the stem like hybrids, mh1 and s200's but the bore at the end is much wider. Please excuse the poor cell flash pic:



Edit: Even better than S200 tips...
Edited by shotgunshane - 5/24/14 at 9:06pm
post #1922 of 3994
Sound signature plz 😃
post #1923 of 3994

Speaking purely in terms of tonality, I'd characterize the Tenore's midrange as a hybrid of the HD600 & HD650's midrange.

 

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Edited by FlySweep - 5/25/14 at 1:07am
post #1924 of 3994

So which tips are the best to get then? I'm currently using the Sony hybrid tips medium size on my Carbo Basso. I'm not too fond of double flange tips if that makes any difference. Just want comfort without drastically effecting the sound.

post #1925 of 3994
That
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Originally Posted by Mackem View Post

So which tips are the best to get then? I'm currently using the Sony hybrid tips medium size on my Carbo Basso. I'm not too fond of double flange tips if that makes any difference. Just want comfort without drastically effecting the sound.
's precisely my goal, but i'm too critical about the sound. The sonys didn't work for me. If they sound good to you, by all means keep using them. I might try the ue900 tips...
post #1926 of 3994
I tried the ue900 tips and didn't like it😅
post #1927 of 3994

So far the best tips for me have been the MH1 tips.

post #1928 of 3994
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Originally Posted by qilto View Post
 

So far the best tips for me have been the MH1 tips.

 

The mh1 tips for me are very warm and bassy. Which is very strange,  because they don't seem to seal as tight.

 

EDIT: Ironically, the tenores really do sound a lot more like the mh1 with the mh1 tips. haha. For me anyway. Not "as" bassy and warm, but definitely more in that direction. I bet these would sound great like this out and about...

 

So for me the tips go like this: Tenore = reference << Sony = slightly more body and slightly less treble extension << MH1 = Very warm and bassy with slightly lower treble overall (not sure about extension).

 

In call cases the differences are very small in reality. And in all cases I'm wearing them as in my previous photo.


Edited by luisdent - 5/25/14 at 9:45am
post #1929 of 3994
Stock tips FTW😁
post #1930 of 3994
Love both tenore and doppios 😍 outta my j3 on crystal clear eq😋
post #1931 of 3994

I put my Mikros up for sale today after A/B-ing them with the Tenore. Very similar that I don't really need both. The Tingo buds resolve as well as the Mikros but don't isolate so the Tenore pushed it over the edge. The Tenore are quite a bit more portable as well.

post #1932 of 3994
I like the jvc spiral dot tips best on tenore if u have access to them
post #1933 of 3994
Mh1 tips ARE amazing out and about. Excellent.

UPDATE: I'm actually really digging the mh1 tips for now. They bring the mids up to a smoother level. Still not sure about the treble extension, but if it is different it isn't as cut as with the sony tips for me. This seems to go with the hole size for me too. It's hard to tell, but the mh1 hole size is bigger than the sony hybrid but possibly ever so slightly smaller than the zero tips. But again, the difference there is small. For me the main difference seems to be a touch more of a low end tilt, resulting in a more relaxing, smoother sound. I prefer stock tips still, but these are an excellent alternative with a slightly different signature for me.

DOUBLE UPDATE (OMG): Playing with EQ, it appears that the mh1 tips might be giving me closer to what that graphed response showed. If I cut the bass below 100hz about 6db, the sound is more like what I hear with the stock tips. This is very interesting, and it highlights a strange different with my ears and those of others. With the fitear f111 I seemed to get perfect sound that not many other people heard. The sound was warmer to them and less extended. On the tenores, with stock tips yet again I get absolutely reference sound. I would guess I'm getting the same response as that graph that was posted, but with a more linear bass than even that shows. But some people seem to be hearing more bass and warmth. But with the mh1 tips i'm probably hearing what some people are hearing stock. At least that seems possible based on the comments. So I recommend playing with all tips and fitment until you get the perfect sound, as it seems extremely dependent on far too many factors...

Here's a shot of the stock vs. mh1 tips of the same size:


You can see that the mh1 tip not only extends longer than stock tip and is also farther out to begin with the way the tip is designed off the nozzle. This must be why i get more bass and warmth from the mh1 tip, because the stock tips sound warmer as well when I push them in deeper. So I'm thinking the bore size affects extension, and the depth affects bass on these. I get a good seal with every tip, so it shouldn't be the seal. However, if I move any tip in and out, the bass response goes up and down. So I would try wearing these with the shallowest seal possible to see if that improves anything for some people...
Edited by luisdent - 5/25/14 at 6:39pm
post #1934 of 3994

That's quite the tip post @luisdent! Good stuff though. I look forward to trying out the mh1c tips on the tenores. And the vmoda bliss 3.0 fittings tips. And the UE900 and TF10 tips. And the sony hybrid tips. And the m6 double flanged tips. Might as well throw in the comply tx500 tips. Have I missed any?

post #1935 of 3994
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Originally Posted by jant71 View Post
 

I put my Mikros up for sale today after A/B-ing them with the Tenore. Very similar that I don't really need both. The Tingo buds resolve as well as the Mikros but don't isolate so the Tenore pushed it over the edge. The Tenore are quite a bit more portable as well.

 

Mikros what?

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