[nk77]

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It's holiday week in China so Traluscent should be able to hold your order. I'm burning them in as I speak, but I'm skeptical the sound will change any further. Further, I'm not getting the silver cables from Traluscent until holidays are over.
 
I will test out copper with the 1plus2, it should be quite a different sound from the silver and silver/gold cable. The sound is a shallow V, and I wouldn't call the treble sibilant, they have a bite to it, but not the shimmer. Sibilance can be due to each person's ears, and the recording itself. Perception of sibilance is different, but I believe without any sibilance, the treble will sound muffled, just like stock cables+ES5. The mids are not prominent as the K3003i which is very forward. Again, I will have to test different cables to give you a final verdict for the mids with the 1Plus2, but it's still no way near what the ES5 does with mids. I expected this, so I'm not disappointed either.

 
Yeh I will contact them later. Good point about the perception of sibilance and what lack of sibilance - and interesting that you don't find the 1plus2 sibilant. Different ears eh! 
 
@Lee - you didn't notice any sibilance?

 

[planx]

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I wouldn't be surprised if you switch to copper cable the sound will be thicker, even more laid back, not sure if that will be a good sound to be honest. Still curious if what you guys had mentioned is in part due to both the cable and burn in. Would be funny if that was the case . Looking forward to more reviews next week regardless of the outcome .

 
We will have to see if GG notices a significant difference after burning them in some more. 

 

[lee730]

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Yeh I will contact them later. Good point about the perception of sibilance and what lack of sibilance - and interesting that you don't find the 1plus2 sibilant. Different ears eh! 
 
@Lee - you didn't notice any sibilance?

Not on my pair. I'd be more apt to hear sibilance on the AKGs that is why I'm a bit surprised. There treble is more in line with the IE80s in comparison (except they are more detailed and noticeably faster). Very smooth treble. Keep in mind I sold my W3000 ANVs which have a magnificent mid-range (very nice forward and colored mid-range). I really didn't feel the W3000s were getting enough usage time to warrant keeping them and I felt the Tralucents were a great replacement. If not I'd have still sold them and bought the AKG3003s.

 

[planx]

My ears sure behave differently than everyone elses! I don't find Grados to be tiring at all.

 

[lee730]

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My ears sure behave differently than everyone elses! I don't find Grados to be tiring at all.

For me I tend to run into issues if the treble is too forward (the Open-back Denon 5000s were an exception though). I get very tired fast. That was one reason why I recently sold the FX700s (also the bass would get out of hand when turning it up). The O2 for me exasperated that problem as it's a very aggressive amp. I could enjoy it for say 3 songs. Then after that I'd get tired of listening to music already.

 

[planx]

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For me I tend to run into issues if the treble is too forward (the Open-back Denon 5000s were an exception though). I get very tired fast. The O2 for me exasperated that problem as it's a very aggressive amp. I could enjoy it for say 3 songs. Then after that I'd get tired of listening to music already.

 
Makes complete sense. Maybe my ears are sensitive to V-shaped sounds? After all, I never really liked a lot of aggressive V-shapes (Beyer DT990).

 

[DigitalFreak]

@ GG and planx
 
If you two are having issues with sibilance do what I do, roll some different tips. As you both may or may not know ear canals are like your finger prints, no one set of canals are the same. If you try some different tip options you might be able to tame the upper mid to lower treble frequencies enough to smooth out the sibilance and take the edge off of some of that so called treble bite. Personally, I like to go with a tri flange tip or a comply. The comply might not be a good option though because it could also further muffle the the mids enough to cause the signature to go from a shallow V to more extreme V. The tri flanges might be your best overall option. I'm guessing, depending on the shape of your ear canals, it might do the trick but don't be surprised if the bass becomes even more prominent and the sound stage becomes slightly more compressed. If what I described is to much then try a semi deep fit with a dual flange. Tip rolling for me is a fun tweek for IEM's but it also involves tradeoffs in what you want from the sound signature.

 

[planx]

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@ GG and planx
 
If you two are having issues with sibilance do what I do, roll some different tips. As you both may or may not know ear canals are like your finger prints, no one set of canals are the same. If you try some different tip options you might be able to tame the upper mid to lower treble frequencies enough to smooth out the sibilance and take the edge off of some of that so called treble bite. Personally, I like to go with a tri flange tip or a comply. The comply might not be a good option though because it could also further muffle the the mids enough to cause the signature to go from a shallow V to more extreme V. The tri flanges might be your best overall option. I'm guessing, depending on the shape of your ear canals, it might do the trick but don't be surprised if the bass becomes even more prominent and the sound stage becomes slightly more compressed. Tip rolling for me is a fun tweek for IEM's but it also involves tradeoffs in what you want from the sound signature.

 
Didn't have time to try other tips saturday unfortunately. I thought the standard tips were good enough so I didn't bother changing them.

 

[lee730]

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My ears sure behave differently than everyone elses! I don't find Grados to be tiring at all.

That also makes me wonder lol. Do you love a treble centric sound? Thought Grados are for treble heads ...

 

[DigitalFreak]

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Didn't have time to try other tips saturday unfortunately. I thought the standard tips were good enough so I didn't bother changing them.

Well that was just my 2 cents but trust me tip rolling can make a difference.

 

[DigitalFreak]

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That also makes me wonder lol. Do you love a treble centric sound? Thought Grados are for treble heads ...

Grados are tried and true rocker cans lol. Because they're so mid centric the added harsh treble becomes slightly masked in the sound signature because of the mids being pulled up unlike a U or a V sound signature where that treble and bass depending on the music can take front center stage.

 

[Girls Generation]

I used to roll tips with my old Audio Technica CK10 in ears. I'll try a triple flange, and then a dual flange, and report back soon. It's just that the flanges will create a soundtube, which is counter-intuitive to the design of the 1Plus2...
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Well that was just my 2 cents but trust me tip rolling can make a difference.

 
@Lee, that may be so, but I'm confident my copper cable will bring out the 1Plus2's inherent signature. It doesn't add or change or take away anything, but is just plain transparent, which is what a good cable should aim to do. I wouldn't be surprised if I hear some shimmer on the trebles and reduce the bite, and tame the mid-bass, and give me better dynamics. I'm a bit skeptical about the silver/gold cable, and have always been ever since I touched a Piccolino.
 
 
Further, planx has a very different taste in music than mine. It's strange, however, that he hears so much sibilance since he likes his treble hot while I like them mild but sparkling shimmery.

 

[nk77]

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Not on my pair. I'd be more apt to hear sibilance on the AKGs that is why I'm a bit surprised. There treble is more in line with the IE80s in comparison (except they are more detailed and noticeably faster). Very smooth treble. Keep in mind I sold my W3000 ANVs which have a magnificent mid-range (very nice forward and colored mid-range). I really didn't feel the W3000s were getting enough usage time to warrant keeping them and I felt the Tralucents were a great replacement. If not I'd have still sold them and bought the AKG3003s.

 
Yeh I have to admit I am getting too excited by every criticism (positive or negative) and have to take a step back and look at the bigger picture. That is to say that everyone's ears are different and may not hear the same thing. But I am still enjoying these impressions.
 
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@ GG and planx
 
If you two are having issues with sibilance do what I do, roll some different tips. As you both may or may not know ear canals are like your finger prints, no one set of canals are the same. If you try some different tip options you might be able to tame the upper mid to lower treble frequencies enough to smooth out the sibilance and take the edge off of some of that so called treble bite. Personally, I like to go with a tri flange tip or a comply. The comply might not be a good option though because it could also further muffle the the mids enough to cause the signature to go from a shallow V to more extreme V. The tri flanges might be your best overall option. I'm guessing, depending on the shape of your ear canals, it might do the trick but don't be surprised if the bass becomes even more prominent and the sound stage becomes slightly more compressed. If what I described is to much then try a semi deep fit with a dual flange. Tip rolling for me is a fun tweek for IEM's but it also involves tradeoffs in what you want from the sound signature.

 
Funny I did read somewhere about these comply tips muffling the treble - 2 days after purchasing a set. If that is true I might also get some of Lee's suggestions or the famous sony hybrid tips to try.... So that's what they are called - triple flanges. I always called them tree tops.

 

[lee730]

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Well that was just my 2 cents but trust me tip rolling can make a difference.

Yeah tips will make a difference. I'll try farting around with some of the tips I have now and report back the differences I perceive between them...

 

[planx]

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That also makes me wonder lol. Do you love a treble centric sound? Thought Grados are for treble heads ...

 
LOL that's why I'm a bit confused! If no one else notices what I noticed, am I downright incorrect with my observations? Up to the reader to decide haha. I don't love a treble centric sound, but I do like my treble pretty hot and somewhat aggressive. A good comparison is I hated the SR325is and I love the SR225i. Makes sense people??
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Well that was just my 2 cents but trust me tip rolling can make a difference.

 
For me, as long as the tip offers the best comfort it's good enough for me. I believe in Tube rolling and Cable rolling for changing up the sound, but not SO much for IEM tips (except for a few because for me I prefer the sound of Silicone tips over Foams and Depth is an important factor as well). Like you said earlier, Tri-flange may make a difference with the 1P2 (it probs will), but I haven't tried it yet so...