[ChrisSC]

@kenman: please quote the post you are responding to, and then post your response, like someone in another thread told you.  It makes it much easier for the reader that way.  thanks.

 

[whoever]

hi there, 
 
i'm awaiting a pair of asg 1.2 ( second hand)...very curious....
 
how much will it be to do an upgrade? 
 
 
i know...i should listen to them first

 

[aBc.CaN]

Pricing has not been announced yet, so you can sit tight with me while we wait.

 

[soundbear]

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I'm not trying to defend them. I'm merely curious the situation under which you make your claims as they are unlike anyone elses thus far. I also was trying to help. But I think their is a communication error involved. Their are only two bass ports and seeing as you have AS-2's that means their actually is only 1 possible port you have. It's accessed from the side that is in your ear. The new port available on the ASG-2's is accessible from the outside, which is why Andy might have specified something to you that got confused. All AS-2's have a bass port you adjust with a supplied tool. Unless you ask for no port to be installed, In which case I guess you wouldn't have one. The whole point of the adjustable bass port is that owners like us can adjust it. 
 
Sorry if I come off strong, I'm merely a member of Head-Fi that feels a great sense of community and when someone says something like what you've said, I try to help them out if I can and/or point them in the right direction. 

Perhaps you're right, there was a communication error.   In either case, Andy did tell me I had to use the tool, which I haven't used, all I did was what he suggested on fit which was to pull the ear lobe down, put it in deep, then twist it, which I did at first, but I didn't press it in deep enough before twisting and locking it in(I had no trouble with my previous JH5 in putting it in correctly for a good seal.)   After Andy's suggestion of physically putting it in, then the seal got right and it sounded much better.   So I made no adjustments to the bass.   Flysweep is one of my 2 sponsors, or mentors, and I read his reviews and Shotgunshanes and yours, so I entirely respect all the reviewers, its just my direct comparison to the 7550 revealed a more extended high end than the AS2 which was very, very surprising and disappointing to me.  

 

[Deviltooth]

I'd enjoy reading more impressions of the AS-2, especially as it compares to other multi-driver CIEMs.  Is there bass bleed into the midrange?  How large and three dimensional is the sound stage?  Are the levels of detail comparable to fully BA driven options?
 
How much of a jump is the AS-2 over the AS-1 (both with the most up to date drivers)?

 

[Mimouille]

I'm not trying to defend them. I'm merely curious the situation under which you make your claims as they are unlike anyone elses thus far. I also was trying to help. But I think their is a communication error involved. Their are only two bass ports and seeing as you have AS-2's that means their actually is only 1 possible port you have. It's accessed from the side that is in your ear. The new port available on the ASG-2's is accessible from the outside, which is why Andy might have specified something to you that got confused. All AS-2's have a bass port you adjust with a supplied tool. Unless you ask for no port to be installed, In which case I guess you wouldn't have one. The whole point of the adjustable bass port is that owners like us can adjust it. 

Sorry if I come off strong, I'm merely a member of Head-Fi that feels a great sense of community and when someone says something like what you've said, I try to help them out if I can and/or point them in the right direction. 

"Anyone else" being two people or maybe three...and given the various contradictory feelings on the asg1, there is a chance that he might hear it differently without it being a technical problem.

 

[kenman345]

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"Anyone else" being two people or maybe three...and given the various contradictory feelings on the asg1, there is a chance that he might hear it differently without it being a technical problem.

I believe I mentioned we all hear differently. I understand that. That's why I asked these questions though. Sorry it came off as defending, I'm merely just a curious person that was trying to understand a situation better as to me they obviously sound different.

 

[Aurisonics]

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Andy told me Friday that to access the screw to adjust the bass I would need to take it apart.   Since you seem to know everything about them and are defending them against every negative comment or concern then perhaps you need to discuss that with him or become a paid member of their staff.    I think its sad that a member of Headfi has to respond to every members concern as though its personal and like they are responsible for every members' reaction.

[size=medium]Andy would not have told you to take them apart to adjust the bass port. It is easily accessible from the back when the IEMs are out of the Ear. It's not meant to continually adjust bass response more of a set it like you want and leave them alone. Turning it clockwise "carefully" on both will lower the bass response a tad and should bring the highs out more. [/size]
 
[size=medium]I did speak with Andy and I believe you broke the tweeter bar out of one ear trying to clean ear wax out, so I wonder if you may have gotten ear wax clogged in the nozzle of the tweeter dampeners. I have not heard anyone complain about the level of the highs so you may have an issue with the dampeners. The tweeters are also padded down quite a bit so the level could be raised if needed for your particular taste, however, I suspect you may have potentially clogged the dampeners with ear wax. [/size]

 

[soundbear]

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[size=medium]Andy would not have told you to take them apart to adjust the bass port. It is easily accessible from the back when the IEMs are out of the Ear. It's not meant to continually adjust bass response more of a set it like you want and leave them alone. Turning it clockwise "carefully" on both will lower the bass response a tad and should bring the highs out more. [/size]
 
[size=medium]I did speak with Andy and I believe you broke the tweeter bar out of one ear trying to clean ear wax out, so I wonder if you may have gotten ear wax clogged in the nozzle of the tweeter dampeners. I have not heard anyone complain about the level of the highs so you may have an issue with the dampeners. The tweeters are also padded down quite a bit so the level could be raised if needed for your particular taste, however, I suspect you may have potentially clogged the dampeners with ear wax. [/size]

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[mangler]

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I'd enjoy reading more impressions of the AS-2, especially as it compares to other multi-driver CIEMs.  Is there bass bleed into the midrange?  How large and three dimensional is the sound stage?  Are the levels of detail comparable to fully BA driven options?
 
How much of a jump is the AS-2 over the AS-1 (both with the most up to date drivers)?

I'm wondering the same things (I know the bass is good, so I can check that off my list). This would be my first nice IEM, so I'm trying to figure out if I should go for the ASG-1.3 or save a little longer and spring for the ASG-2. 

 

[ANDEROAN]

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I'm wondering the same things (I know the bass is good, so I can check that off my list). This would be my first nice IEM, so I'm trying to figure out if I should go for the ASG-1.3 or save a little longer and spring for the ASG-2. 

on the fence, I luv my ASG-1.2s! and so I will follow Dales game plan, so by the time all of the upgrade options are available there will be alot of folks that will share what there hearing, I put out some great reviews/input/feedback! will be nice to test the waters so to speak, but until I take a plunge or two, with some upgrades, hearing is knpwing, and I will wait to find out, I am in nnooo hurry, having my 1.2s is bliss at this point, I am luving the brighter SS of the MKII along with the CLAS soon to be giving the -R a listen! they REALLY synergize with the 1.2s vocals have buttery timbre to them, and the treble resonates along with the mids and bass! anyways I'm in no hurry, thanks Dale! Happy Easter!

 

[vocalist]

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[size=medium]Andy would not have told you to take them apart to adjust the bass port. It is easily accessible from the back when the IEMs are out of the Ear. It's not meant to continually adjust bass response more of a set it like you want and leave them alone. Turning it clockwise "carefully" on both will lower the bass response a tad and should bring the highs out more. [/size]
 
[size=medium]I did speak with Andy and I believe you broke the tweeter bar out of one ear trying to clean ear wax out, so I wonder if you may have gotten ear wax clogged in the nozzle of the tweeter dampeners. I have not heard anyone complain about the level of the highs so you may have an issue with the dampeners. The tweeters are also padded down quite a bit so the level could be raised if needed for your particular taste, however, I suspect you may have potentially clogged the dampeners with ear wax. [/size]

Well, I'm glad to know I'm not the only one that did this exact same thing.  I too had to speak with Andy last week to get the right fit because I felt like the left was very present but I wasn't hearing as much on the right side.  You really do have to move them around in your ears to make sure you're getting the right seal or they will sound completely off.  
 
My longest listening session so far was about 2 hours straight and I only stopped listening because I had somewhere I needed to be and in the end ran behind because a new song would come on and I couldn't take them out.  Unfortunately, my time is fairly limited because I have a lot going on but I'll try and get my thoughts together.  So far, now that I have the proper fit, everything sounds pretty well balanced and very, very clear.  At times, the vocals seem a bit more forward then everything else but I'm trying to figure out if that varies, depending on the source I'm using and whether or not I've EQ'd them. I'm certainly not complaining as it works really well for me with my music choices.  I haven't found a genre that I don't like with them and I also don't hear the lack of treble mentioned earlier - though in all honesty, as odd as it sounds, I'm not sure I'd be able to tell you if it "extended well" or not.  I do know that I have quite a few vocals/operas in my collection with coloratura sopranos and they sound fantastic. The Doll Song from The Tales of Hoffman takes her voice into the rafters as if you're sitting in the hall watching it happen live on stage.  I hope I'm getting my thoughts across as I find it a little difficult at times when trying to give my impressions of what I'm hearing.  I feel like the AS-2's bring out the emotions in performers and from my experience, that's not an easy accomplishment. 
 
I'll try and do some more listening and update my impressions and I'll also try to give the PFE 232 listen and give some thoughts between the two.  If anyone has specific songs/questions, let me know and I'd be happy to try and give my thoughts. 

 

[Idsynchrono_24]

Awesome. Glad to hear they came in vocalist. How do you find the timbral accuracy of the AS-2?

 

[vocalist]

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Awesome. Glad to hear they came in vocalist. How do you find the timbral accuracy of the AS-2?

I find them to be very accurate which makes them even more fun to listen to for acoustic guitar, strings, etc. I'd like to go into more of an explanation but I'm tired and general thoughts are escaping me.  I'll try and give more detail tomorrow 

 

[Deviltooth]

While I'm waiting for more AS-2 impressions I'm also curious about another CIEM listed on Aurisonics site: Custom silicone IEMS are listed for sale but there is no further information about them.  What driver do they use?  Does anyone here own a set and can they comment on performance?