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post #916 of 1913
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Originally Posted by Empire1 View Post

I heard Fostex is making the DX000 line under a new name.
If this is true, I'm grabbing up a 7000.

Yes. It is the TH900
post #917 of 1913
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Originally Posted by dagothur View Post

D7100: the $1200 fart cannon.

That's the truth.


As I was saying before about the Beats Pros, check this out. Beats on the left, D7100 on the right:







It boggles the mind. With the exception of the 30Hz square wave, the Beats are laying the smackdown. There's really nothing else to say.
Edited by Magick Man - 9/25/12 at 4:47pm
post #918 of 1913
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Originally Posted by Empire1 View Post

I heard Fostex is making the DX000 line under a new name.
If this is true, I'm grabbing up a 7000.


Where did you hear that?
 

post #919 of 1913
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Originally Posted by SONIC BOOM View Post

Where did you hear that?

I second that. The TH900 is an improvement over the D7000.

post #920 of 1913
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Originally Posted by WiR3D View Post

I second that. The TH900 is an improvement over the D7000.

+1

post #921 of 1913

Interesting about TH900... But the price is little bit high I would say (more than 2x the price of D7000!). For that much money, I would rather get some electrostatic headphones from Stax :-)

post #922 of 1913
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Originally Posted by Ahzari View Post

+1

 

Had: AKG Q701, Audeze LCD2, Beyer DT990/T1, Denon D2k/7k, HifiMan HE500, Sen HD650, Sony XB700/1000/V700DJ, Ultrasone Pro900/2900/Signature Pro : Music Hall Dac25.3, Nuforce Icon HDP, WooAudio WA6

 

I see you've owned A LOT of headphones... Could you please tell me a bit about your opinion on Audeze LCD2, AKG Q701, Beyer DT990, HifiMan HE500 and Sen HD650? I am mainly interested in a level of detail they can offer, not that much in frequency response differences (but you can elaborate on it as well). Some comparison among those would be nice :-)


Edited by MHOE - 9/26/12 at 2:34am
post #923 of 1913
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Originally Posted by MHOE View Post

 

Had: AKG Q701, Audeze LCD2, Beyer DT990/T1, Denon D2k/7k, HifiMan HE500, Sen HD650, Sony XB700/1000/V700DJ, Ultrasone Pro900/2900/Signature Pro : Music Hall Dac25.3, Nuforce Icon HDP, WooAudio WA6

 

I see you've owned A LOT of headphones... Could you please tell me a bit about your opinion on Audeze LCD2, AKG Q701, Beyer DT990, HifiMan HE500 and Sen HD650? I am mainly interested in a level of detail they can offer, not that much in frequency response differences (but you can elaborate on it as well). Some comparison among those would be nice :-)

thats a fairly massive request

post #924 of 1913
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Originally Posted by WiR3D View Post

thats a fairly massive request

 

+1  Yeah, it is.  I believe my personal response to that would be "wuuttt...?"

post #925 of 1913
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Originally Posted by WiR3D View Post

thats a fairly massive request

it is quite a request so I'll keep it brief/subjective to my tastes.. I added the T1/ D7000/ Signature Pro as a reference to broaden the comparison.

to note: I like warmer/smooth treble signature, deep impactful bass, and comfort is very important (I prefer velour to leather pads)

 

Bass: D7000>LCD2>Signature Pro=T1>HD650>DT990>HE500>Q701

- IMO the D7000s have the best bass in terms of musical enjoyment

 

Treble: Q701>LCD2>Signature Pro>D7000>T1>HE500>HD650>DT990

- The Q701 surprisingly had excellent smooth and controlled yet natural treble/ I really liked the reproduction. The LCD2s slightly too warm. The D7000s slightly sibilant.

 

Midrange: LCD2>Signature Pro>T1>Q701=HE500>D7000>HD650>DT990

- LCD2's and HE500s and known for their midrange, I preferred the LCD2s.

 

Comfort: D7000>T1>HD650>Q701>Signature Pro>DT990>HE500>LCD2

- D7000s are barely there, HD650s clamp a bit but the velour pads are great, the LCD2s are terribly uncomfortable for long listening.

 

Build Quality: Signature Pro>T1=DT990>HD650>D7000>LCD2>Q701>HE500

- I had a lot of build issues with my HE500s on the other side the DT990s/T1 were build like a tank.

 

Overall: D7000>Signature Pro>T1>LCD2>Q701>HD650>HE500>DT990

* this is the order in which I would buy these headphones the D7000 being my first choice (if $ was not much of a concern)...

 

- D7000s have always been my favorite go to headphone before the TH900s I currently own, the Q701s are a great value though. I didn't like the HE500 at all neither in terms of build or musicality. The HD650s sound a little too warm - even for my taste - especially when comparing them to the T1/Signature Pro/ D7000 which have better micro detail retrieval and a sharper treble character. On the other side the DT990s treble has a great deal of sibilance - overly sharp/cold treble character which was not to my liking. Hope this helps.

 

I am sure some will disagree but music/listening/enjoyment are quite personal and this is how I personally felt about these phones, feel free to ask more "specific" questions about my comments if you like.


Edited by Ahzari - 9/26/12 at 5:46am
post #926 of 1913
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Originally Posted by Ahzari View Post

it is quite a request so I'll keep it brief/subjective to my tastes.. I added the T1/ D7000/ Signature Pro as a reference to broaden the comparison.

to note: I like warmer/smooth treble signature, deep impactful bass, and comfort is very important (I prefer velour to leather pads)

 

Bass: D7000>LCD2>Signature Pro=T1>HD650>DT990>HE500>Q701

- IMO the D7000s have the best bass in terms of musical enjoyment

 

Treble: Q701>LCD2>Signature Pro>D7000>T1>HE500>HD650>DT990

- The Q701 surprisingly had excellent smooth and controlled yet natural treble/ I really liked the reproduction. The LCD2s slightly too warm. The D7000s slightly sibilant.

 

Midrange: LCD2>Signature Pro>T1>Q701=HE500>D7000>HD650>DT990

- LCD2's and HE500s and known for their midrange, I preferred the LCD2s.

 

Comfort: D7000>HD650>T1>Q701>Signature Pro>DT990>HE500>LCD2

- D7000s are barely there, HD650s clamp a bit but the velour pads are great, the LCD2s are terribly uncomfortable for long listening.

 

Build Quality: Signature Pro>T1=DT990>HD650>D7000>LCD2>Q701>HE500

- I had a lot of build issues with my HE500s on the other side the DT990s/T1 were build like a tank.

 

Overall: D7000>Signature Pro>T1>LCD2>Q701>HD650>HE500>DT990

* this is the order in which I would buy these headphones the D7000 being my first choice (if $ was not much of a concern)...

 

- D7000s have always been my favorite go to headphone before the TH900s I currently own, the Q701s are a great value though. I didn't like the HE500 at all neither in terms of build or musicality. The HD650s sound a little too warm - even for my taste - especially when comparing them to the T1/Signature Pro/ D7000 which have better micro detail retrieval and a sharper treble character. On the other side the DT990s treble has a great deal of sibilance - overly sharp/cold treble character which was not to my liking. Hope this helps.

 

I am sure some will disagree but music/listening/enjoyment are quite personal and this is how I personally felt about these phones, feel free to ask more "specific" questions about my comments if you like.

 

That's a FANTASTIC post man! I am very grateful :-) WE HAVE QUITE THE SAME PREFERENCES (more smooth treble, quality tight bass and high level of comfort) so that makes your opinion even more useful for me!

 

Honestly, if I am going to purchase some other headphones in the future, they need to pass there requirements:

 

 

1) Are of impedance up to 300 ohms

2) Are as comfortable as D7000 (for very long listening sessions)

3) Are full-size (open/closed doesn't matter)

4) Are neutral (or quite easy to neutralise by EQing)

5) Are affordable (not +1500$) but still better mainly in a level of detail they offer in comparison with D7000

 

 - So LCD-2 are not very comfortable? If not, they are a definite no-go for me! I need to be able to listen for hours and still feel comfortable (as I do with D7000).

 - And Q701 doesn't have a good bass? I listen mainly to rock and metal or even some pop with electronic elements and I like how D7000's bass drives it all (I do not EQ the bass in any way). I would only thing about some headphones with a good tight bass (but it doesn't have to be equally good to D7000's)

 

What about HD650 vs D7000 - which ones offer higher level of detail? I quite like them as they are neutral, full-size, comfortable (not only from your reference), up to 300 ohms and are affordable :-) But don't know if I can get anything with them if I already have D7000 (neutralised).


Edited by MHOE - 9/26/12 at 5:32am
post #927 of 1913
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Originally Posted by MHOE View Post

 

That's a FANTASTIC post man! I am very grateful :-) WE HAVE QUITE THE SAME PREFERENCES (more smooth treble, quality tight bass and high level of comfort) so that makes your opinion even more useful for me!

 

Honestly, if I am going to purchase some other headphones in the future, they need to pass there requirements:

 

 

1) Are of impedance up to 300 ohms

2) Are as comfortable as D7000 (for very long listening sessions)

3) Are full-size (open/closed doesn't matter)

4) Are neutral (or quite easy to neutralise by EQing)

5) Are affordable (not +1500$) but still better mainly in a level of detail they offer in comparison with D7000

 

 - So LCD-2 are not very comfortable? If not, they are a definite no-go for me! I need to be able to listen for hours and still feel comfortable (as I do with D7000).

 - And Q701 doesn't have a good bass? I listen mainly to rock and metal or even some pop with electronic elements and I like how D7000's bass drives it all (I do not EQ the bass in any way). I would only thing about some headphones with a good tight bass (but it doesn't have to be equally good to D7000's)

 

What about HD650 vs D7000 - which ones offer higher level of detail? I quite like them as they are neutral, full-size, comfortable (not only from your reference), up to 300 ohms and are affordable :-) But don't know if I can get anything with them if I already have D7000 (neutralised).

 

For me if I have to rank headphones in terms of comfort level..

 

1. Sennheiser HD800

2. Sennheiser PXC450

3. Denon AH-D7000

4. beyerdynamic T1

5. beyerdynamic DTxxx premium series (DT770, DT880, DT990)

6. Sennheiser HD650

7. Q701/Q702

.

.

.

99. Audeze LCD2

100. Monster Beats Solo

101. Monster Beats Pro


Edited by Canadian411 - 9/26/12 at 5:38am
post #928 of 1913
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Originally Posted by MHOE View Post

 

That's a FANTASTIC post man! I am very grateful :-) WE HAVE QUITE THE SAME PREFERENCES (more smooth treble, quality tight bass and high level of comfort) so that makes your opinion even more useful for me!

 

Honestly, if I am going to purchase some other headphones in the future, they need to pass there requirements:

 

 

1) Are of impedance up to 300 ohms

2) Are as comfortable as D7000 (for very long listening sessions)

3) Are full-size (open/closed doesn't matter)

4) Are neutral (or quite easy to neutralise by EQing)

5) Are affordable (not +1500$) but still better mainly in a level of detail they offer in comparison with D7000

 

 - So LCD-2 are not very comfortable? If not, they are a definite no-go for me! I need to be able to listen for hours and still feel comfortable (as I do with D7000).

 - And Q701 doesn't have a good bass? I listen mainly to rock and metal or even some pop with electronic elements and I like how D7000's bass drives it all (I do not EQ the bass in any way). I would only thing about some headphones with a good tight bass (but it doesn't have to be equally good to D7000's)

 

What about HD650 vs D7000 - which ones offer higher level of detail? I quite like them as they are neutral, full-size, comfortable (not only from your reference), up to 300 ohms and are affordable :-) But don't know if I can get anything with them if I already have D7000 (neutralised).

Yes the LCD2's were very uncomfortable for me.. the headband and the weight were just too much.

The Q701s have good bass, not as punch and deep as the D7000.

The HD650 is a step down from the D7000 in every aspect IMO, still a great headphone but the D7000 does just about everything better and is more comfortable.

Honestly if you are willing to spend $1500 I would save up until you can get the TH900s (which can be had for $2000) because they are the natural step up from the D7000s and since you are already enjoying the D7000s you will very much enjoy the TH900s.. same level of comfort, better audio experience, even more beautiful than the D7000s. 

 

Another headphone you can try is the Beyerdynamic T1, I didn't feel like the bass was all that punchy but i've read many people who enjoy rock with the T1 headphones (I personally listen to electronic and the T1s werent for me).

Also the HD800s with the right amp can have a decent amount of bass and they have a very unique sound that you may enjoy (I would suggest demo'ing before purchase - of course) but those are right at your price range and they are one of the most comfortable headphones I have ever worn.


Edited by Ahzari - 9/26/12 at 5:47am
post #929 of 1913
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Originally Posted by Canadian411 View Post

 

For me if I have to rank headphones in terms of comfort level..

 

1. Sennheiser HD800

2. Sennheiser PXC450

3. Denon AH-D7000

4. beyerdynamic T1

5. beyerdynamic DTxxx premium series (DT770, DT880, DT990)

6. Sennheiser HD650

7. Q701/Q702

.

.

.

99. Audeze LCD2

100. Monster Beats Solo

101. Monster Beats Pro

lol i like that list... though i've never tried the pxc450s.

post #930 of 1913
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Originally Posted by Canadian411 View Post

 

For me if I have to rank headphones in terms of comfort level..

 

1. Sennheiser HD800

2. Sennheiser PXC450

3. Denon AH-D7000

4. beyerdynamic T1

5. beyerdynamic DTxxx premium series (DT770, DT880, DT990)

6. Sennheiser HD650

7. Q701/Q702

.

.

.

99. Audeze LCD2

 

From someone who owns HD800, D7000, T1, LCD-2, HD650, Q701, ... it is a very useful opinion :-) Why do you not like HD650 comfort level very much?

 

Hmmm, I thought HD650 has impedance of 300 ohms but it seems different: http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD650.pdf That makes it not very suitable for me, I would rather get something with impedance up to 100 ohms =/

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