Review: Philips Fidelio L1 [Updated 5/14]
Apr 3, 2012 at 10:19 PM Post #303 of 756
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Apr 4, 2012 at 12:09 AM Post #305 of 756


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I chose the Burson HA160.  Seems right up my ally, I don't need tons of power, but I do need epic sound staging and clarity which the HA160 has over the Lyr and pretty much everything I've ever heard but the Gram Slee Solo III
 
Apr 4, 2012 at 4:33 AM Post #307 of 756
A parting gift to the head fi community, as I wont be able to finish my review of the L1, I will say this.  The $65 Sony MDR ZX700 with Hifiman Velor Earpads is the end all portable headphone combo ever.  Bare none, the best sounding closed can outside of the D5000 that I have ever heard.  The Hifiman velours fit with minimal coaxing onto the Zx700 cups.  In 15 years of being an audiophile, I've never once come across anything that even remotely comes close to this.  Side by side with the HE300 themselves, the sound is noticeably more clear, much larger and more spacious.  The Sony is a closed back by the way, I've never witnessed in all my years of tinkering with earpads and mods something that changed so drastically with an earpad swap.  The Sony ZX700 + He300 pads = insane win.  Angled drivers in the Sony with the edition of slightly angled HE300 earpads bestows amazing soundstaging qualities that are yet further extended with crossfeed.  I dare you to try this combo.  You will not regret it.  It makes me cringe at the $320 price tag of the L1, while it itself is pretty amazing, its still $300, while this combo will hardly cost you $80 total.  
 

 
 
 
Apr 4, 2012 at 5:00 AM Post #308 of 756
I heard the ZX700 and was not at all impressed, though that was with stock pads. I doubt the pads would make enough of a difference for me.
 
Apr 4, 2012 at 9:16 PM Post #311 of 756
Hi
 
My Philips Headphones arrived today.
 
They are well built.
 
So what do they sound like?
 
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Apr 5, 2012 at 12:52 AM Post #312 of 756
 
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I heard the ZX700 and was not at all impressed, though that was with stock pads. I doubt the pads would make enough of a difference for me.


This.
I bought my wife the ZX700 and she liked it. I thought it's okay, but very muddy as in poor resolution. Bass is fundamental with little texture and no punch at all. I don't see what this headphone has to do with the L1.
 
Apr 5, 2012 at 4:57 AM Post #313 of 756
You had a fake ZX700, 100% sure of that if you say it had poor res and no bass slam. The ZX700 and Z1000 have excellent imaging and are regarded as such for it and has good bass kick that is rock solid.  The mids are powerful, extremely large and broad.  The highs were sharp and the bass was a bit muddy, but for $70 used?  Nothing comes close.  Tyll enjoyed them, the ZX700 has insane capabilities for modding, the earpads are severely limiting their potential.  Their drivers are angled and with proper dampening that costs all but $5-10 at the crafts store, you should be able to replicate the Kees mod or something similar to reduce the sharper highs and up the bass.  Angled drivers with flat earpads and cups makes no sense, with the addition of the Hifiman velors, the results are excellent for soundstaging.  I am a bit concerned a few users didn't pick up on what I was trying to get at, i thought I was clear on what I was talking about.  The L1 is now being regarded as having an excellent sound stage, it does.  It sounds immensely good everywhere, its bested in soundstaging qualities by the ZX700 with the HE300 pads.  The sound is noticeably larger, more spacious and more dynamic.  The Zx700 mids are massive and significantly taller and more spacious sounding than the L1.  The L1 is more clear, smoother and with more bass, but I'll never know what they can achieve as they made sure you can't modify it or swap pads out.  The pads are permanent, you cant remove them without damaging the set.
 
This and Phillips immensely poor service in the marketing department were upsetting. Phillips is the first audio company in the past decade that I've tried to contact that ignored every call, message and email left to them.  Latoya, one of their marketing managers should be fired immediately, just my view on it.  Immensely uncaring and poor response yet from a MARKETING agent.   The L1 is without question the best overall experience I've had with headphones in the past decade.  Its the closest to perfect I've come across.  Its sexy, immensely well built rivaling the Edition 8 in materials used in the headband and brackets, its comfortable for unlimited use, its well rounded for all genres and offers a great warmness to the low end with no overshadowing of the excellent moderately forward mids and highs. Its also the least sibilant $300 headphone I've ever used with the blackest background I've heard in years.  The exposed squiggly cable over the earcups and the lack of slightly angled removable earpads are the only things I could gripe about.  So much for not being able to review it, I guess.  Thats about as far as I was able to get with it before the accident.  Cant use headphones or iems for a long time so thats really all I can say for the time being, if some users want my incomplete review, drop me a Private Message.  If I get enough, I can copy and paste what I had written up to that point, which was enough to get the gist of what the headphone is and how it sounds.
 

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