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FiiO E17 "ALPEN" - First Impression + Final Thought
Jan 19, 2012 at 12:21 PM Post #406 of 6,777


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motrix said:
 
 


Thanks for the replies.  Well it looks like it is a MBP issue.  I tried it out on my other MBP and HP Laptop and it works fine through USB.  Looks like I will need to pick up one of those toslink cables for my other MBP.  Any recommendations for which toslink to get?  I would imagine there should be no differences.
 
 
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For the MBP try these cables. It's what I ordered for my Macbook Pro.
 
1.5ft: http://bit.ly/xf6jZp
3ft: http://bit.ly/wgNSGG
6ft: http://bit.ly/wDBnao
 
Then one of these adapters:
http://bit.ly/AFboJW
 
I'm pretty sure the E17 comes with the adapter though.
 
 
Jan 19, 2012 at 12:52 PM Post #408 of 6,777
Looking to get my first DAC/AMP.  The E17 looks great.  But is it really worth getting if I'm pairing it with ~$50 ear/headphones?  I have Brainwavz M2, MEE a151, and Superlux 668b.  I primarily listen via ipod (I'd get a LOD) and my laptop/work computer.
 
Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! 
 
Jan 19, 2012 at 12:55 PM Post #409 of 6,777
Consider it your first step in a long, long list of upgrades, much to your wallet's chagrin.  That way you'll have something to drive your first set of audiophile-grade cans whenever you get them.  But, yes, you'll get some semblance of SQ upgrade and it'll pair with all your listed sources, so it's quite flexible in that sense.
 
Jan 19, 2012 at 1:18 PM Post #410 of 6,777
I also have a Dayotn DTA-1 Amp hooked up to my main bookshelf speakers (ADS L400).  I play my ipod/laptop through this system as well.  Would the E17 make much of a SQ difference in this setup?  My guess is yes, but I'd like to make sure. 
 
Jan 19, 2012 at 1:36 PM Post #411 of 6,777


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motrix said:
 Any recommendations for which toslink to get?  I would imagine there should be no differences
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It shouldn't make much difference as long as they are decently built, but you should use the shortest cable you need.
 
 
Jan 19, 2012 at 1:37 PM Post #412 of 6,777
So since people seem to be having issues with getting the e17 to work with their MBP through a USB connection, toslink seems like the next option. But how exactly does that work? The e17 comes with an adapter to connect to the 3.5mm port, but what about the MBP side? And is all of this going to affect SQ in any way?
 
I only have an MBP and this does NOT sound like good news.
 
Jan 19, 2012 at 2:25 PM Post #413 of 6,777


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intendeduser said:
So since people seem to be having issues with getting the e17 to work with their MBP through a USB connection, toslink seems like the next option. But how exactly does that work? The e17 comes with an adapter to connect to the 3.5mm port, but what about the MBP side? And is all of this going to affect SQ in any way?
 
I only have an MBP and this does NOT sound like good news.
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Most MBP works, some don't - I assume it is most likely a problem within the OS and can be fixed via software or update. But I am not a Mac user so you need to find out for yourself.
 
All you need to get is a toslink (optical) cable. All MBP already have toslink output build into the 3.5mm headphone jack (and thus why it shines red inside) so you must make sure to get a toslink cable with the 3.5mm adapter (E17 only comes with one and you might need another one for MBP as well). Some toslink cable only comes with the more common square connector but not the 3.5mm adapter. So get a toslink cable that come with two adapter) Once you connected them both, set them in the right setting and E17 will start singing. Using toslink is actually better than USB (in theory anyway) as you can get 24/192 via SPDIF but only 24/96 via USB. In practice, I don't you will notice any difference.
 
Jan 19, 2012 at 2:32 PM Post #414 of 6,777


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clieos said:
It shouldn't make much difference as long as they are decently built, but you should use the shortest cable you need.
 
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mister2d said:
 
For the MBP try these cables. It's what I ordered for my Macbook Pro.
 
1.5ft: http://bit.ly/xf6jZp
3ft: http://bit.ly/wgNSGG
6ft: http://bit.ly/wDBnao
 
Then one of these adapters:
http://bit.ly/AFboJW
 
I'm pretty sure the E17 comes with the adapter though.
 
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The E17 does not come with an adapter unfortunately.  The links you provided is toslink-toslink.  Is there a cable that I can use that does not require an adapter?  Aren't both connections, E17 and MBP, 3.5mm?  Do I need a mini- toslink cable and use the adapter on the E17 SPDIF input?
 
Jan 19, 2012 at 2:35 PM Post #415 of 6,777


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clieos said:
Most MBP works, some don't - I assume it is most likely a problem within the OS and can be fixed via software or update. But I am not a Mac user so you need to find out for yourself.
 
All you need to get is a toslink (optical) cable. All MBP already have toslink output build into the 3.5mm headphone jack (and thus why it shines red inside) so you must make sure to get a toslink cable with the 3.5mm adapter (E17 only comes with one and you might need another one for MBP as well). Some toslink cable only comes with the more common square connector but not the 3.5mm adapter. So get a toslink cable that come with two adapter) Once you connected them both, set them in the right setting and E17 will start singing. Using toslink is actually better than USB (in theory anyway) as you can get 24/192 via SPDIF but only 24/96 via USB. In practice, I don't you will notice any difference.
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Thanks ClieOS!!!!....as I was writing my post you seemed to have already answered my question
 


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motrix said:
 


The E17 does not come with an adapter unfortunately.  The links you provided is toslink-toslink.  Is there a cable that I can use that does not require an adapter?  Aren't both connections, E17 and MBP, 3.5mm?  Do I need a mini- toslink cable and use the adapter on the E17 SPDIF input?
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Jan 19, 2012 at 2:51 PM Post #418 of 6,777


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motrix said:
 
 


Thanks for the replies.  Well it looks like it is a MBP issue.  I tried it out on my other MBP and HP Laptop and it works fine through USB.  Looks like I will need to pick up one of those toslink cables for my other MBP.  Any recommendations for which toslink to get?  I would imagine there should be no differences.
 
 
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I recommend the fancy version of the cables on monorpice. in the pics by clieos and what fiio said. the adapter was included. shorter cable the better. anything under 15ft shouldnt make a diff.
 
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10229&cs_id=1022904&p_id=2764&seq=1&format=2
 
Jan 19, 2012 at 4:05 PM Post #419 of 6,777
Not sure why everyone keeps recommending him toslink to toslink cables, when you can get one that goes spdif to toslink without an adapter on Amazon. Personally I went ahead with the adapter for versatility -- if I need that cable in the future for temporarily hooking some other device in I can pop off the adapter. However, for portable, definitely I would want the less pieces = the better.
 
Jan 19, 2012 at 4:42 PM Post #420 of 6,777


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parasitius said:
Not sure why everyone keeps recommending him toslink to toslink cables, when you can get one that goes spdif to toslink without an adapter on Amazon. Personally I went ahead with the adapter for versatility -- if I need that cable in the future for temporarily hooking some other device in I can pop off the adapter. However, for portable, definitely I would want the less pieces = the better.
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price. the cable's don't look as good as monoprices. i know tht looks have nothing to do with performance. but those thick fancy monoprice cables.....ya know. and..portability? You think i'm gonna use SPDIF while i am out? umm.. AUX in with an LOD thank you
 
 
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