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Mar 31, 2014 at 2:56 PM Post #22,381 of 48,562
stillhart said:
So the ATH-M50 is on sale like everywhere the last couple days.  Thay're now down to $75 for a refurb (with 1-year warranty).  Are these worth picking up?  I know there's a new one out, but a $200 can for $75 seems like it might be worth checking out...
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Speaking of that deadly bug...

Anyone have any antibiotics for my man, here? :p
 
Mar 31, 2014 at 2:59 PM Post #22,382 of 48,562
change is good said:
Speaking of that deadly bug...

Anyone have any antibiotics for my man, here?
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I've heard there's no cure yet. 
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 YOU MUST SUCCUMB! 
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Mar 31, 2014 at 3:01 PM Post #22,383 of 48,562
change is good said:
You can chime in... but I'all make sure to be absent on that day. Same way I plan on being absent when Axel sends out the T1 on tour.

No no no... that bug won't be biting me, again! Lol. It's the reason why I keep getting in financial binds...
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PS: Give me some time to edit my posts!
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I know your address. I can storm up to your front door, disguised as a pizza delivery guy, and use that to get inside your house and force the T1 over your ear canals.
 
Mar 31, 2014 at 3:03 PM Post #22,384 of 48,562
napalmhardcore said:
  I tend to decide what attachments to use on a gun by gun basis.
 
On an unrelated note, think I'm going to buy a Mixamp Pro and Sennheiser PC 360's. I will give myself a couple of days to mull it over, but I'm liking the idea of convenience and have long wanted to try Sennheisers. It will also add to my experience of the available surround solutions as I've already got the DSS2 and a SB Omni. Gaining more experience can only be a good thing (unless that experience is being molested by clowns).
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As someone who has personally tested the HD598, AD700, X1, MA900 and Q701, the PC360 are absolutely terrible, and all of these were tested with a Mixamp pro (which I love btw). I couldn't believe after using the aforementioned headphones, all of which were great in their own ways, how muddy, dark and terrible the PC360 sounded. I ended up returning all of the above except for the AD700, which I had been using for a couple years, as I simply couldn't justify the $200+ purchase when the AD700 were as good or better than they were for my main purpose, gaming.
 
The X1 were my favorite all-rounder and I kept them longest before returning them and if I'd gotten in on the $150 deal I would absolutely have kept them, and beyond the fit and price I got the MA900 for, I'd have also kept them and $150 is about the sweet spot for those also IMO. The Q701 yearned for a better amp than I had and wasn't willing to purchase at the time, and they were easily the least comfortable due to the bumps.
 
The HD598 were great for pretty much everything, a solid B all-around but not necessarily an A in anything, and those were returned in favor of the AD700 again, due to the price and because they didn't improve on the gaming prowess of the AD700.
 
 
That said, can anyone truly recommend a pair that is better for (competitive) gaming than the AD700 that aren't astronomically priced? I'm still looking for a good deal to grab another pair of X1's, but haven't tried any open beyers or AKG's other than the K/Q701's.
 
Mar 31, 2014 at 3:03 PM Post #22,385 of 48,562
change is good said:
Speaking of that deadly bug...

Anyone have any antibiotics for my man, here?
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I thought I was doing a really good job of not buying expensive desktop amps... 
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I thought the M50 might be a good portable for travelling.  I don't really want to use open headphones on an airplane and I don't super want to travel with big fragile $200+ cans anyhow.  But I'm worried that my $200+ headphones have spoiled me for $75 headphones.  lol
 
But you're right.  If I'm spending any more money right now, it'll be on an amp.  There will always be another super sale when I'm ready to get another pair of headphones.
 
Mar 31, 2014 at 3:09 PM Post #22,386 of 48,562
titan said:
   
As someone who has personally tested the HD598, AD700, X1, MA900 and Q701, the PC360 are absolutely terrible, and all of these were tested with a Mixamp pro (which I love btw). I couldn't believe after using the aforementioned headphones, all of which were great in their own ways, how muddy, dark and terrible the PC360 sounded. I ended up returning all of the above except for the AD700, which I had been using for a couple years, as I simply couldn't justify the $200+ purchase when the AD700 were as good or better than they were for my main purpose, gaming.
 
The X1 were my favorite all-rounder and I kept them longest before returning them and if I'd gotten in on the $150 deal I would absolutely have kept them, and beyond the fit and price I got the MA900 for, I'd have also kept them and $150 is about the sweet spot for those also IMO. The Q701 yearned for a better amp than I had and wasn't willing to purchase at the time, and they were easily the least comfortable due to the bumps.
 
The HD598 were great for pretty much everything, a solid B all-around but not necessarily an A in anything, and those were returned in favor of the AD700 again, due to the price and because they didn't improve on the gaming prowess of the AD700.
 
 
That said, can anyone truly recommend a pair that is better for (competitive) gaming than the AD700 that aren't astronomically priced? I'm still looking for a good deal to grab another pair of X1's, but haven't tried any open beyers or AKG's other than the K/Q701's.
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I think you nailed pretty much every great budget-friendly open over-ear headphone there is.
 
Mar 31, 2014 at 3:15 PM Post #22,387 of 48,562
stillhart said:
 
I thought I was doing a really good job of not buying expensive desktop amps... 
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I thought the M50 might be a good portable for travelling.  I don't really want to use open headphones on an airplane and I don't super want to travel with big fragile $200+ cans anyhow.  But I'm worried that my $200+ headphones have spoiled me for $75 headphones.  lol
 
But you're right.  If I'm spending any more money right now, it'll be on an amp.  There will always be another super sale when I'm ready to get another pair of headphones.
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The discontinued V-Moda M-80 is an excellent portable can and can be had for around $75 pretty easily. Then there's the V-Moda XS that just launched is just over $200 but built to travel extremely well. Personally I'd take the M-80 over the M50 any day of the week. From memory, the M50's soundstage isn't any better than the M-80 and the M-80 is a tank. Mine gets a lot of abuse at the office, getting knocked off my desk by coworkers and I just toss it naked into my drawer at the end of the work week. It's held up very well. But I do prefer a more balanced and neutral sound, and next to the M50 the M-80 can't stand up to the bass response of the AT can.
 
I may have a slight bias for V-Moda's portable headphones as I love my M-80 and I anticipate I'll love my XS even more. The XS will be accompanying me on my three weeks of travel beginning Friday.
 
Mar 31, 2014 at 3:26 PM Post #22,388 of 48,562
titan said:
   
As someone who has personally tested the HD598, AD700, X1, MA900 and Q701, the PC360 are absolutely terrible, and all of these were tested with a Mixamp pro (which I love btw). I couldn't believe after using the aforementioned headphones, all of which were great in their own ways, how muddy, dark and terrible the PC360 sounded. I ended up returning all of the above except for the AD700, which I had been using for a couple years, as I simply couldn't justify the $200+ purchase when the AD700 were as good or better than they were for my main purpose, gaming.
 
The X1 were my favorite all-rounder and I kept them longest before returning them and if I'd gotten in on the $150 deal I would absolutely have kept them, and beyond the fit and price I got the MA900 for, I'd have also kept them and $150 is about the sweet spot for those also IMO. The Q701 yearned for a better amp than I had and wasn't willing to purchase at the time, and they were easily the least comfortable due to the bumps.
 
The HD598 were great for pretty much everything, a solid B all-around but not necessarily an A in anything, and those were returned in favor of the AD700 again, due to the price and because they didn't improve on the gaming prowess of the AD700.
 
 
That said, can anyone truly recommend a pair that is better for (competitive) gaming than the AD700 that aren't astronomically priced? I'm still looking for a good deal to grab another pair of X1's, but haven't tried any open beyers or AKG's other than the K/Q701's.
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Kind of disappointed to hear that as I thought I may have found a good solution. Although, taste being the subjective matter that it is, I'm still wondering whether or not to try them. One man's muddy is another man's balanced. Mind you my mind isn't made up and all the info and opinions I can get is helpful.
 
Mar 31, 2014 at 3:40 PM Post #22,389 of 48,562
napalmhardcore said:
  Kind of disappointed to hear that as I thought I may have found a good solution. Although, taste being the subjective matter that it is, I'm still wondering whether or not to try them. One man's muddy is another man's balanced. Mind you my mind isn't made up and all the info and opinions I can get is helpful.
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Sennheiser headsets sound better with a decent dac..when a game has really good music the sennheisers come to life..if you are wanting a headset with good surround sound for bf4 get the ad700 with the astro mixamp!
 
Mar 31, 2014 at 3:45 PM Post #22,390 of 48,562
napalmhardcore said:
  Kind of disappointed to hear that as I thought I may have found a good solution. Although, taste being the subjective matter that it is, I'm still wondering whether or not to try them. One man's muddy is another man's balanced. Mind you my mind isn't made up and all the info and opinions I can get is helpful.
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I hope if you do try them out that either you do enjoy them more than I did or that I just happened across a dud pair, but I honestly was shocked based on the brand and the fact they supposedly have the HD5X5 drivers at how poorly they compared with the AD700 and X1's I had at the time I tried them.
 
Mar 31, 2014 at 3:57 PM Post #22,395 of 48,562
napalmhardcore said:
That brings me right back to the problem of a mic solution. Was hoping to sidestep that issue and why hearing that the PC 360's might not be too great when paired with a Mixamp is disappointing.
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You can get a very good desktop microphone at around 50 - 70 bucks no?
I use a cardioid one around that price and its pretty amazing.
 
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